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keith A 16th April 2017 15:32

9./JG2 wiped out in Normandy 23 June 1944?
 
In one source it is said that this staffel was all but wiped out by Spitfires. 2nd TAF by Chris Shores identified their attackers as possibly 144 Wing. Can anyone tell me how many aircraft were lost by JG2 on this date?

On this date the RAF claimed 14 Fw190 against LW losses of 8, can anyone tell me which of these Fw190 were lost after 1800 that day?


regards

Keith

Bruce Lander 16th April 2017 16:48

Re: 9./JG2 wiped out in Normandy 23 June 1944?
 
Hi Keith,

I have the following losses over the Invasion area on this date as follows:-

5/JG.2..Bf.109G-6 (412490)...Uffz.Walter Sauder ...S-Longwy
2/JG.2..Fw.190A-8 (172688)..Ofhr.Fritz Beer....Dreux
7/JG.3..Bf.109G-6 ( ??????)...Uffz.Franz Wehmeir....Verneuil
8/JG.3..Bf.109G-6 (165209)...Ofhr.Werner Ilgen......Gouville ...Black 6
8/JG.3..Bf.109G-6 (163963)...Uffz.Paul Riessbeck....Le Chatelier...Black 3
9/JG.3..Bf.109G-6 (412550)...Uffz.Herman Keck......Verneuil
9/JG.3..Bf.109G-6 (412577)...Uffz.Elmar Ditzel........Paris
6/JG.5..Bf.109G-6 (412519)...Uffz.Walter Giese.......Le-Mesnil-Fuguet
7/JG.27 Bf.109G-6 (412559)..Lt.Hans-ajo Hayessen..Paris
11/JG.27 Bf.109G-6 (412534).Uffz.Herbert Witt.......Bretteville/Cherbourg
1/JG.1...Fw.190A-8(680539)...Lt.Siegfried Stoffel.....Alencon...White 7
1/JG.1...Fw.190A-8(680555)...Uffz.Franz Schnabl.....Alencon...White 15
2/JG.1...Fw.190A-8(170093)...Uffz.Wilhelm Woite....Caen...Black 14
St.II/JG.26..Fw.190A-8(730425)..Hpt.Johannes Naumann...Caen...Black 30
2/JG.54..Fw.190A-8 (171021)...Uffz.Willi Zirn...Estuaire-de-l'Orne...Red 3
7/JG.54..Fw.190A-8 (171057)...Uffz.Otto Venjakob...Evreux...Black 4

Lot of details of the combats in John Foremans "Fighter Command War Diaries"
and David Clark's "Angels Eight"

Cheers
Bruce Lander

focusfocus 16th April 2017 17:23

Re: 9./JG2 wiped out in Normandy 23 June 1944?
 
Two planes of JG2 were lost that day(2/JG2,5/JG2)

the two planes of JG1(1/JG1) were lost around 21h45 "Alençon"

two other planes of JG54(2/JG54,7/JG54) were lost around 16h45"Evreux-Caen, SE Orne"

no planes of 9/JG2 lost that day

michel

keith A 19th April 2017 08:05

Re: 9./JG2 wiped out in Normandy 23 June 1944?
 
Many thanks chaps. Bruce, as a result of your prompting I have bought myself a copy of Foremans FCWD to replace the one I used to have which was destroyed when the boiler in my attic sprang a leak :) . Michel - to my shame I got my information about the massacre of 9./JG2 from Wikipedia and now am embarrassed that I did not see there was no corroboration in any of my other sources.

best regards

Keith


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