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Snautzer 3rd June 2016 14:22

eBAy: Captured german planes
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-MILI...QAAOSwOVpXUNjx

Bf109( partial code), Me110, Do217

Marc-André Haldimann 3rd June 2016 16:09

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The 109 is a WNF built Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. 511 8.9 "Schwarze 1", unknown training unit, possibly found at Schleissheim, May 1945.

Cheers
Marc

ChristianK 3rd June 2016 20:32

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Nice find, Snautzer :)

This seems to be the airfield at Ainring. Another shot of He 111 "??+JW" can be seen on page 61 in the book "Doras of the Galland Circus" by Jerry Crandall. Also of note is the "Mistel" gear on the Do 217. This plane might have belonged to the Deutsche Forschungsanstalt für Segelflug (perhaps for experimental flights with the Me 328 or DFS 228?). According to Technical Intelligence Report No. E-34 (also quoted in Crandall's book) one Do 217 was captured at Ainring. I bet it's the one in these Ebay photos..

Cheers,
Christian

EDIT: I just see that the same TI report mentions a Ju 88, equipped for carrying a V-1. Would love to see a shot of this one too..

Marc-André Haldimann 3rd June 2016 22:15

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Thanks for your insight, Christian. For the 109 shots, I would doubt Ainring as there are definitely no Alps to be seen in the background...

Cheers
Marc

ChristianK 3rd June 2016 22:32

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Hey Marc, just turn around, then you can see them ;)

Marc-André Haldimann 4th June 2016 01:05

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Done ! Thanks for the pinpointing, Christian !

Cheers
Marc

D.B. Andrus 5th June 2016 21:48

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Is it unusual that the 109G-14 has C3 in the primer tank fuel triangle as opposed to B4?

Cheers,

D.B.

Snautzer 7th June 2016 13:46

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Me262
  1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WWI...cAAOSwuhhXVJ6a
  2. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WWI...cAAOSwtJZXVKXh
Bf109
  1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WWI...4AAOSwLnBXVKEb
  2. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WWI...AAAOSwnNBXVKBF
  3. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WWI...0AAOSwnFZXVKUU

Nick Beale 7th June 2016 13:54

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Appears to be W.Nr. 201835, so a G-8 reconnaissance model.

ouidjat 7th June 2016 15:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Snautzer (Post 219375)

Michael,

This is a Fw190! :) PS #2 in your list ...

edNorth 7th June 2016 15:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChristianK (Post 219205)
According to Technical Intelligence Report No. E-34 (also quoted in Crandall's book) one Do 217 was captured at Ainring. I bet it's the one in these Ebay photos. EDIT: I just see that the same TI report mentions a Ju 88, equipped for carrying a V-1. Would love to see a shot of this one too.

Anyone here with copy of this report?

Best regards
Ed

Charles Bavarois 7th June 2016 21:23

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Hello Ed,

I got a copy of the report on Ainring,#E-14 dated 28th June 1945 which is also reproduced in Jerry Crandalls „Doras of the Galland Circus“.
It has three pages, mainly on the research institute itself, on buildings and experimental items found, among them a complete He 280 without jet-engines undergoing stress-tests.

The operational types found were only listed without any notes on subtypes, Werknummern or codes:
3 (?) ME 108
7 ME 109
3JU 87
5 JU 52
3 FW 190 (long nose)
4 HE 111
1 ME 110
1 DO 217
1 JU 88 (with attachment for carrying V-1)
5 Fiesler Storch (sic)
1 TE Transport (Siebel 204).

Published photos show that there were at least two Ar 96 trainers and four DFS 230 gliders around. I would like to see a photo of the Ju 88. Jerrys booklet is full of nice photos anyway!

HTH

Carl

Snautzer 7th June 2016 22:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Bavarois (Post 219391)

Published photos show that there were at least two Ar 96 trainers

HTH

Carl

trainer Ar96: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WWI...cAAOSwqBJXVKQk

Steve Coates 8th June 2016 01:13

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If anybody wants a scan of TI Report E-14 please PM me with your e-mail address. My scan is too big to upload here.

Snautzer 14th June 2016 13:00

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FE-490/T2-490 Horten Ho229V-3 prob. known but a nice clear image

http://www.delcampe.net/page/item/id...anguage,D.html

Snautzer 14th June 2016 13:04

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http://www.delcampe.net/page/item/id...anguage,D.html

David E. Brown 15th June 2016 06:02

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Carl and Ed,

In addition to the above-noted machines, photos reveal that there were also the following:

Heinkel He 46 E “D-IHEA”
Klemm KL 31 “KO+AW”
Focke-Wulf Fw 190 D-9 "Red 3" (JV 44)
Focke-Wulf Fw 190 D-9 "Red 13" (JV 44)
Focke-Wulf Fw 190 A
Grunau "Baby"

Cheers,

David

Seaplanes 15th June 2016 10:48

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D-IHEA was a He 46E W.Nr. 877 first flown at EHF on 13. May 1935.

ChristianK 15th June 2016 11:24

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Hey David,
can you tell me where to find a photo of D-IHEA at Ainring revealing the code? This plane is visible in some of the photos I know, but sadly the code is readable in none of them..

Cheers,
Christian

Merlin 15th June 2016 11:41

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The Klemm should read KO+AW - as found for this plane in several log books.
KQ+AW was an Ar 76.

Tom Willis 15th June 2016 17:03

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I can confirm the Stkz as KO+AW but I have this as a Kl 31. Is this correct?

Thanks
Tom

edNorth 15th June 2016 17:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by David E. Brown (Post 219715)
.. Ed, In addition to the above-noted machines, photos reveal that there were also the following: Granau "Baby"
Cheers, David

FYI, Grunau Baby ... flew 2 of the DFS-49 Grunau Baby IIb2 glider version (wider cockpit) on winch tow, open cockpit, many times. Glide ratio of 1:17 or less (optimist). You push one rudder and ... wait for response ... Deep stall and one can look ahead the other way! Landing distance down to just 5 meters, not much wind needed. -Ed

David E. Brown 15th June 2016 19:19

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Gents,

Many thanks for the additional information / corrections. I have included these in my original post.

Christian, the images for the Klemm and Heinkel come from my own collection.

Ed, glad you survived your adventures with the "Baby"!

Cheers,

David

Norbert Schuchbauer 15th June 2016 22:08

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KO+AW is a Kl 31

Regards,
Norbert

Snautzer 13th July 2016 13:37

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Fw190 Mourmelon, France

  1. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orig-Photo-4...gAAOSwzJ5XfQrc
  2. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orig-Photo-4...3D222178420965
  3. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orig-Photo-4...3D222178421707
  4. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Photo-406th-...3D142047017636

Snautzer 31st August 2016 13:35

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Fw190- Ju88 Mistel
http://www.ebay.de/itm/2-Wk-Foto-Flu...4AAOSwFc5Xwsyp

Dénes Bernád 31st August 2016 23:30

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This German guy sells low quality repro photos.
I don't have good experience with him.

Snautzer 5th September 2016 12:28

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FW190 DH+BG Found at Koethen / Köthen, Germany 1945

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Focke-Wulf-F...gAAOSwMgdXxIk8

Snautzer 11th September 2016 13:20

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Bf109, Stendal 1945

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Messerschmit...UAAOSw8oFXzdJV

Snautzer 11th September 2016 14:08

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Colour, wreck, Fw190, 1945

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Sli...AAAOSwxg5Xxaqk

Snautzer 11th September 2016 14:11

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Colour, Ju188, 1945
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Sli...wAAOSwMgdXxayG

Roger Gaemperle 12th September 2016 09:59

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Does anyone know the buyer of the Ju 188 slide? If the buyer reads this, can you PM me?

Tom Willis 12th September 2016 18:00

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Hi Roger
Start with the RICH List! LOL

Regards Tom

Dénes Bernád 12th September 2016 18:23

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I am not on it, for sure. :/

Stephen M. Fochuk 13th September 2016 17:47

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Ooooh, a colour slide of two Fw-190 D's....and the one of the Ju-88 is amazing. Interesting green it is wearing.

Snautzer 14th September 2016 13:09

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Fi156, english markings

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-9...8AAOSwvzRX0GRf

Stephen M. Fochuk 15th September 2016 05:43

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French I believe.

Snautzer 15th September 2016 13:09

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Me262
http://www.ebay.de/itm/2-Wk-Foto-Flu...oAAOSwmLlX17~D

RolandF 15th September 2016 13:22

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Me 262A-2a WNr 500279, F1+DA from Stab/KG 76. Found damaged April 4th 1945 Giebelstadt a/f. Alternatively as 9K+DA. Otoh, the cloloured rings around the jet intake are a characteristic feature for KG 76 jets.

Regards
RolandF

Snautzer 18th September 2016 13:54

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Possible JV44

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-US-GI-P...AAAOSwvzRX1eHV


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