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Edward L. Hsiao 1st January 2018 07:45

Re: Did the Luftwaffe use captured Allied Aircraft as 'bogies' & 'spotter aircraft' frequently in the defence of the Reich?
 
Gentlemen,

This is very interesting. This topic needs to be explored more. Happy 2018!

Edward L. Hsiao

Nick Beale 1st January 2018 09:10

Re: Did the Luftwaffe use captured Allied Aircraft as 'bogies' & 'spotter aircraft' frequently in the defence of the Reich?
 
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Originally Posted by Edward L. Hsiao (Post 244965)
Gentlemen,

This is very interesting. This topic needs to be explored more.

Edward L. Hsiao

What possible advantage would there be in flying an enemy aircraft in airspace where your own Flak and fighters were active? There were enough friendly fire casualties without providing an extra reason!

Snautzer 1st January 2018 09:49

Re: Did the Luftwaffe use captured Allied Aircraft as 'bogies' & 'spotter aircraft' frequently in the defence of the Reich?
 
A better "ear" for investigating new radio and radar devices come to mind. Just a posibility, zero evidence

Chris Goss 1st January 2018 11:18

Re: Did the Luftwaffe use captured Allied Aircraft as 'bogies' & 'spotter aircraft' frequently in the defence of the Reich?
 
There were dedicated units, such as Kdo Rastadter, for listening using German aircraft

Nick Beale 1st January 2018 11:31

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Originally Posted by Chris Goss (Post 244970)
There were dedicated units, such as Kdo Rastadter, for listening using German aircraft

And if anyone's interested in themhttp://www.ghostbombers.com/recon/Rastedter/lj01.html

edNorth 1st January 2018 16:19

Re: Did the Luftwaffe use captured Allied Aircraft as 'bogies' & 'spotter aircraft' frequently in the defence of the Reich?
 
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Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 244971)
And if anyone's interested l

Then ... some ... Ju 88 / 188s of abowe units, listed in Mr. Beales research, do not always agree with experts knowledge of these aircraft, versions and serials not matching this authors research. But not saying this is faulty in any way.

Me too have been researching as much of Ultra (HW 5) as possible but last (2016) trip to TNA was unfortunately shorter than I liked, so have not got copying longer than just beginning of August 44.

Eggert

Nick Beale 1st January 2018 17:52

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Originally Posted by edNorth (Post 244985)
Mr. Beales research, do not always agree with experts knowledge of these aircraft, versions and serials not matching this authors research. But not saying this is faulty in any way.

Eggert

How gracious of you.

edNorth 1st January 2018 17:57

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You are welcome.

John Vasco 1st January 2018 21:50

Re: Did the Luftwaffe use captured Allied Aircraft as 'bogies' & 'spotter aircraft' frequently in the defence of the Reich?
 
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Originally Posted by edNorth (Post 244985)
Then ... some ... Ju 88 / 188s of abowe units, listed in Mr. Beales research, do not always agree with experts knowledge of these aircraft, versions and serials not matching this authors research. But not saying this is faulty in any way.

Who are these anonymous 'experts' of whom you speak?

The day ALL researched information matches exactly, and there is nothing more to know/find out, is the day all researchers close their files, quit what they are doing, and head off into the sunset...

edNorth 1st January 2018 22:45

Re: Did the Luftwaffe use captured Allied Aircraft as 'bogies' & 'spotter aircraft' frequently in the defence of the Reich?
 
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Originally Posted by John Vasco (Post 245000)
Who are these anonymous 'experts' of whom you speak?

Multiple aircraft in text on Kdo Rastadter not be in agreement. My comment were directly tread related.


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