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Gang,
I'll have a glass of virtual champaign with all of you tonight: there are now 3012 referenced pictures on my Flickr account. A huge THANKS to all who have contributed pics and knowledge; and good and fruitful research to all users! Thanks for keeping me aware of any possible mistake, and looking forward towards the next pics ! Cheers Marc |
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We'll talk about that virtual stuff later!... :D
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Hell Gang,
I just uploaded another picture of Lt. Friedrich-Wilhelm "Timo" Schenk's Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. unknown "Rote 5", 2./JG 300, taken at Borkheide in December 1944, courtesy of www.jg300.de website. http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...n/photostream/ As it is a close-up of the cockpit area, I noticed a five digit number painted under the hand grip door next to the rear of the cockpit... Number is 47221; could it be the Erla Factory Werk Nummer, and if yes, what actual RLM given W.Nr.? This could give us at last the identity of the superb plane recently illustrated by Anders;-)) Cheers Marc |
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Hello all,
I did not see the foto in Marc's archives, but on page 235 in the book "Defending the Reich 1944-1945" by Robert Forsyth, depects a Erla Haube, Tall Tail G-6, Gruppe IV wavy bar, with the inscription "Margot", possibly of JG 27 during the summer of 1944. Could this possibly be Heinrich Bartels mount? Thanks. |
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I don't thinks so, Oberst: Bartel's plane was "nicknamed "Marga"... and this particular machine is said to be a Bf 109 G-6 from 10./JG 27, Champfleury-La Perthe, France, July 1944.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...57633291875477 Cheers Marc |
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Thank you for the correct information.
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I would like to know the name of the pilot who flew during the third season (3 Staffel Mickey Mouse) in the Condor Legion in the Spanish Civil War, the Messerschmitt Bf109E with identification number 6128. I have a good pic
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Hello Karl,
This is not the place for your question. You already asked for it/him in two other different threads and I did answer you. Thank you for your understanding. Best regards, Franck. |
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Gents,
i'm having a six-pack of "Schnaps" for tonight because flickr reliably doesn't work for me. I'm afraid it won't do as well in 2014... PROSIT Norbert *hickup* :) |
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Many thanks for this link. The picture is published in Prien and Stemmer 1996, p. 321; it does show a majority of Erla built Bf 109 G-6's of 6./JG 3, seen at Rotenburg in February 1944. Cheers Marc PS: Norbert, I'm really sorry to hear your Flickr plight. Maybe try it once more using a firefox navigator with preferences set on english? Or take up a yahoo account? Let me know |
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Hi there Gang,
Taking a benefit from my free Christmas time, I'm doing some caption upgrades. And I'm stuck by this pic of "Weisse 3", a late Mtt-Waldwerk Bf 109 K-4 W.Nr. 334xx4. http://www.flickr.com/photos/28092068@N03/5174499734 Notice also the K-4, also from a late production batch, in the back: the W.Nr. last two digits are 08. http://www.flickr.com/photos/28092068@N03/11566140044/ Not the slightest idea where it could have been taken. Any information would be much appreciated! Cheers Marc |
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Marc-Andre,
I do believe these images were taken by the same RCAF individual who photographed the D-13, Yellow Ten. I am Kilometres apart from my reference material, and it's bugg'n me that I can't remember the name of the photographer. He was a night fighter pilot on Mossies, either No.409 or 410 Squadron, RCAF. From there you might be able to identify the local as Hildebrandt was protective of his sources to the point it cost him. Stephen |
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Hi there Stephen!
Many thanks for your lead! The name given as a credit for that pic by Hildebrandt 1989 is Finlayson. There were two Flinlayson: - F/L Ross Hunter Finlayson, 409 RCAF Sqn. - F/O C. Finlayson, Navigator, 410 RCAF Sqn. Trying now to narrow down where those two Squadrons were based in Germany. Will keep you posted. Cheers Marc |
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Hello everyone,
Crashed Enemy Report (CEA269) indicates that Finlayson’s photo was taken at Fl.Pl. Rheine. Bf109K-4 3+ White is possibly WNr. 33X444. The unmarked Bf109K-4 in the background is either 33X808 or 33X828; both are listed as being at abandoned wingless at Rheine. My sources are: CEA269, Broken Eagles#3 and A311/RAF. Steve Sheflin |
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Steve,
You did it once again! A real Christmas gift indeed… Rheine-Hopsten it is. Both machines are probably from the 334 xxx block, given the low-vis Mtt-Bodenwöhr camouflage, as the highest recorded W.Nr. in the 335 xxx block is - to my knowledge - 335 213. I will suggest thus cautiously W.Nr. 334 444 for "Weisse 3" and 334 808 for the background machine. What other airfields does CEA269 cover? Many many thanks! Marc . |
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Hi there Folks, and all the best for 2014!
I just found a very intriguing pic of an Mtt-Regensburg built Bf 109 which I think is a G-14 (note the tall tail wheel strut). I do suppose it belonged to a training unit, given its high "Schwarze 3" tactical number. Wondering if anyone knows the location and the unit? Thanks in advance! Marc |
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Salut Marc,
Schwarze 3 or Schwarze 31 ?? No idea but a Training unit for sure and a G-14 too. We already found a lot of G-14s in training units with long tail Wheel. Tschüss from Lausanne! he he he! Franck. |
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Hi there Gang,
And all my warm wishes for 2014! I just got hold of a very interesting pic showing an engineless Mtt-Regensburg built Bf 109 G-14 (IMHO, not the least because of its long tail wheel strut), depicted in the winter 1944-1945 somewhere in Germany. Because of its high tactical number, I do tend to think that "Schwarze 31" was part of a training unit. I would be glad to know more about location and unit. Thanks in advance for your help! Marc PS: it's just the third time I retype this post: each time I add the link to my Flickr account, the screen goes blank with a "Service temporarily unavailable" advice... |
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And another late war Bf 109 to identify, courtesy of Tomas Prusa:
www.flickr.com/photos/28092068@N03/11859549935/ Any idea about unit and location? Thanks in advance Marc |
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Hi folks,
Over on facebook.com, Rob Paull suggests the Arnhem bridge. After checking out the available photos, this makes sense. And now a far off shot: any Bf 109 losses known in the second half of September 1944 in eyesight of the bridge ? Thanks in advance Marc |
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And another nagging question: I just uploaded a picture thanks to Peter, over on LEMB, of a WNF built Bf 109 G-6 "Rote 3", of an unknown III./JG.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...n/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...n/photostream/ I'm pretty sure I've seen already this pic, but can't remember where. Your help will be appreciated! Cheers Marc |
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Oh yes. Good photos, Marc! And BIG thanks to Mr. Evans for the find on eBay... very good! Respect...
I don't find it... but I remember a colour photo of a G-6(?) with a "red 3"?! For your photo from post #625... looks a bit like that: http://www.me109.info/display.php?a=e&fid=7358 But the new photo was taken later... gras is higher and some more parts are missing on the plane (prop blade, etc.) |
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True, David: Peter helps us enormously with his untiring picture hunting efforts.
As for post 625, we have a real trouble here: the bridge in the background looks like the one in Arnhem, and this 109 belly landed on the northern bank of the Rhine, which to my understanding was held by the Germans until Spring 1945.... Don't know what to do with this one. The one sure thing is the sitting officer: he is for sure British, not Russian like for Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. 511 500 "Weisse 10"... Prost! Marc |
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If it's Arnhem, wouldn't it be on the south bank of the Rhein? On the north bank, the bridge emerged right out of the built-up area of the city. There was open ground to the south, e.g. where the Polish Parachute Brigade was dropped.
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Thanks for bringing me back on tracks... I gout my perspectives mixed up.
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Pretty certain that the bridge is Nijmegen, counting the vertical supports it is the same number in both the images supplied.
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Many thanks, chaps, this sets the location! "All" what remains now is the unit and date;-))
Much appreciated! Marc |
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in Kennung column you type Rote 3 (fortunately only 6 answers) You start to check with "Unknown unit" and Bingo ... That's the one! [URL="www.flickr.com/photos/28092068@N03/8699746632" ... The same than one of the two above. Cheers, Franck. :) |
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Thanks for reminding me, Franck! By having a closer look, at the second (blow-up) pic, we can notice a III Gruppe bar. This would thus give us 10./JG 2, which at that time was based at Vannes-Meucon.
Cheers Marc |
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Folks,
A fantastic find - at least for me - today: In Jet & Prop 2001/5, a dozen stills do show Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 18 312 "BF+QD" being tested by Flugkapitän Erich Dahm with a ...sickle bladed propeller! Regensburg, 1944-1945. Wow!!! http://www.flickr.com/photos/28092068@N03/ Cheers Marc |
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Hi Marc,
I see that: "Bf 109 G-6/R2/Trop W.Nr. unknown "Weisse ?", Lt. Troebs, 1./NAGr. 12, Mostar, Spring 1944" - seems to be the wrong link. But the most important - I SEE!! It´s like the healing of the blind... Btw, I have WNr 18312 as being delivered to 4° Stormo Regia Aeronautica from depot Bari June, 19, 1943 and a further mentioning in September 1944 at E-Stelle Rechlin. The 2nd mentioning might have somthing to do with your photo; the 1st mentioning might significate damage and repair. Regards Roland |
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Danke Roland! Just glad you can now wander around, pick your choice and shed your profound knowledge.
interesting the career of W.Nr. 18312: it one pot the few which actually were flown out of Southern Italy before it was too late... Cheers Marc |
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