Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Sadly, me being a pessimist at heart, the seller probably has all the photos he/she uses stored on their hard drive w/o watermarks!

Mark Proulx

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

You're certainly correct; if they will try to market them again, especially with the given captions, this will be obvious again, and we will be able to react.

Cheers
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Here two quick trials:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/28092068@N03/41618845765
https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...n/photostream/

Any advice ?

Cheers
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Marc:

Well...they certainly works....

What I try and do, when sending out my photos to our color profiler for WOTBC, is to place watermarks in such a way that they are obvious, but don't detract from the overall image. For example, the watermarks I place will go thru the top of the rudder only, or thru the gear legs and tail wheel only, not through the center of the fuselage obliterating markings. That ruins the photo. If that to happen, then they may as well be taken off the 'net completely. I try and place the watermark where it is difficult to use Photoshops program to obliterate it w/o harming the subject matter, but enough to try and maintain its overall integrity. Try and think like a thief...is that watermark placed in such a way as to make my effort at removing worth my while or even possible.

Another consideration for placement is thru areas where there are a number of multiple colors. For example, a watermark thru grass and capturing the wheels at the same time a great option. I avoid watermarks in the sky of photos. To easy to remove.

You could also consider multiple watermarks around the subject. I have done that for EE and the decal sheet instructions I created with my photos. Again, I try and avoid obliterating the main subject matter, but place numerous watermarks around it.

Sadly, that is what this has come to now!

I hope this helps and I am very sympathetic to your cause.

Mark Proulx

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Marc


Is there a way to share access to your 'Private" collection to those deemed trustworthy? It seems a shame to collectively punish both those who would abuse the permissions and those who would not . Especially, persons who have shared images with you to post on your site.


Best Regards,


D.B.

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

D.B.,

I fully understand your feeling. Alas, there will be at first the fastidious watermarking process before the photos will be made public again...

Check just now eBay for 109's, and there you see the problem is way not over: another "player" is lifting again photos and slightly modified captions for offering them at 3.99 Euros:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Messerschmitt...kAAOSw-VtbEyHc

Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Thanks for you support and guidance, Mark.

Sincerely
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Hi there, Gang,

Here some fresh images wich do need some additional research:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEUG...AAAOSwVMlbhYB1

http://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEUG...4AAOSw8b9bhYAv

Said to be JG 54 at Strausberg, Winter 1944 - 1945.

Both machines to be seen are from JG 77 as clearly shown by their red heart emblem. The first picture shows a G-14: "Weisse 1", is from I./JG 77 which was equipped from August 1944 onwards with Bf 109 G-14's before relinquishing them early 1945 for the Bf 109 K-4's. Possible location could be Dortmund as Stab and I./JG 77 were stationed there between October 44 and 18 January 1945.

The second photo is clearly a Bf 109 G-6 with short antenna mast and D/F loop. As this type was definitely withdrawn by I./JG 77 at the end of September 1944 by then fully equipped with new G-14's, it can't be a late 1944 photo as the trees framing the machine are leafless. Hence the possibility this shot being taken in Italy, before April 1944.

Any possible confirmation for the location or any other details in relation with this rare portfolio ?

Cheers
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Hi there Gang,

Again from the same superlative photographic portfolio from former photographic technician Vaughan Pitman, 493 Squadron Air Service Group:

1. Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. 460 520 "Rote 11", 10./JG 76, Plivot near Athis, September 1944.
https://vaughanpitman.com/2018/01/18...9ea32f87f/2084

2. B 109 G-8 W.Nr. 202 072 "Schwarze 3", 2./NAGr. ?, Germany, Spring 1945. Notice behind "Schwarze 3" the wrecked Bf 109 K-4 W.Nr. 334 809. Location remains a mystery.
https://vaughanpitman.com/2018/01/18...9ea32f87f/2077

Cheers
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Concerning #889

Werknummer 202072 was reported 4. April 1945 at Göttingen airfield with 2./NAG 1 (Ultra Hw5/688). It was captured on this place some days later Source is A-382 dated 18. April 1945 which strangely only has two Bf 109 K4s, Werknummern 334151 and 334252 (the last one reported like G6).

Thanks a lot for the pointer

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Many thanks for your informations, Charles; I highly appreciate them. So we have a third Göttingen K-4 with W.Nr. 334809.

Cheers
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Göttingen ... hmmm, I live in Göttingen and the former airfield was an flat area. Today there is an great public school (in one of the former hangars it's now an gymnasium, where my son played soccer), the rest of the area is an industry park. Somehow it doesn't fit with the situation on the picture ....

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Thanks to Roy-Magne Mo, over on Bf 109 from Anton to Toni Group, FB, we have here a very nice footage from a training unit sending off either a Bf 109 G-6 or G-14, Winter 1944 - 1945.
https://tv.nrk.no/serie/filmavisen/F...3-1945#t=8m49s

Stills:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/dateposted/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...n/photostream/

Given the big black there digits numeral ("Schwarze 490") of the tactical markings, could this be a 2./JG 104 machine filmed whilst this Staffel was stationed at Roth, Winter 1944-1945 ?

Thanks in advance for your insights and thoughts
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Hi Guys.
Nice to meet u.
Following the thread subject, I would like any information about 109G-6 late (or g-14), Blue 62, training unit, Wr. N:781993. Any picture of this bird would be appreciated.

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

As far I know, only one picture of this plane has been published in Lw in Focus Special #3.
G-14, Schwarze 62, Finow Fl.Pl., Apr/May-45. Being towed by ox.
Only rear part of it.
Most probably it can be a three digit code "x62", and JG10x.
I don't know where you got the "Blue" code. But why not.

Regards,
Franck.

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Dear ouidjat
Blue 62 comes from Barracuda Decals and all color profiles regarding this variant in the web commented as training unit plane.

I do have the LIF 3 I can have a look at. Thank u in adavance.

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

:) :) :)
You can't believe all what you find on internet, even when drawings have been done by Anders. ;)
As for JG110 ... Yes, it's a training unit but which one? That's what I wrote JG1xx. Nothing more.

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Hi again.
Unfortunately, i do have the no3 regular edition not the spezial...
Does anybody own this book to get a scan for me from the page 54 regarding the 109g-14 mentioned above?

I would appreciate it!

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

I almost missed this late war Bf 109 G among the current eBay offers:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Ori...oq~:rk:10:pf:0

One can see under the right wing of the Fw 189 in the foreground, a low-visibility camouflaged Bf 109 G-10. The tactical marking being a "Schwarze 7" allows to link up this airframe to the one published by Hideki Noro in his 2009 "LO+ST", p. 175. It is captioned to be an Erla built Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. 152 3?3 possibly photographed at Salzburg in May 1945.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...-8RxGfG-8RuHzx

Scrutinising the published photo allows IMHO to read W.Nr. 152 033 rather then W.Nr. 152 3?3. Hence my three questions:

1. Any known W.Nr. in the 152 3xx range ?
2. Any information on W.Nr. 152 033 ?
3. Any positive identification for the airfield where those planes were found ?

Thanks in advance
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Hi Marc,
Regarding your question #1, I’m at work away from my database files, but I can tell you that I have approximately eight other Erla-built Bf 109 G-10’s from within the 152 xxx series, and I believe all of them to be 152 0xx, i.e., below 152 100.
As to question #3, I believe the location to be Salzburg, Austria.
I will confirm the above when I get home.
Respectfully,
Steve Sheflin

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Many thanks for your answers and leads, Steve; much appreciated. Looking forward for your further news.

Cheers
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Hello Marc,

as for the 152.xxx we have BAL for most a/c from 152.000 to 152.074. Then a gap followed by 152.375 to 152.395. All of them Bf 109 G-10/R6.

The 152.3xx Batch had its BAL very late in March 1945 and I did not find any more information on this birds with one exception: 152.377 was to be delivered from Leipzig Erla-Auslieferungslager to III./JG 300 on 14. April 1945 (Ultra HW5/692).

Carl

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Thank you Carl,

Some are thinking I'm at least a liar, or at worst a mythomaniac (or the contrary) even when I give your name as source.
...

Franck.

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Excellent Carl ! Many thanks for your insight.

Cheers
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Hello Marc,
Sorry to be late in getting back to you.
Following are the Bf 109 G-10/R6 from within the 152xxx WNr. block that I have documented so far.

152 011
152 016
152 023
152 027
152 033
152 036
152 040
152 043
152 046
152 053
152 055
152 056
152 057
152 058
152 063
152 069
152 073
152 077

I have three others that fit all the parameters of 155xxx aircraft, but for which I have no Werknummern.

Respectfully,
Steve Sheflin

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Many thanks, Steve, for your thorough answer !

One interesting point Franck alerted us to is the fact presented by Carl we have ALSO this 20 planes in the W.Nr. 152 375 - 152 395 batch; this is a great complement to our background knowledge about latest Erla built G-10/R6's.

Cheers
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

CORRECTION: My last sentence should read 152xxx not 155xxx.
Steve Sheflin

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Hi there, Gang;

This photo is nagging: it rings a bell as I'm under the impression to have seen it already - maybe because of the double white cross painted on the propeller blade base. I just searched for more then one hour this Bf 109 G-14/AS or G-10 through my files, without success... See attachment and original link here:
http://www.tankdestroyer.net/images/...50-500-100.png

Original caption says: "Sgt. Warren J. Allen of Headquarters Company demonstrates his flying and shooting skills. Photo courtesy of Charles Wilts."

Any ideas about this particular machine ?

Thanks in advance.
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

do you have any bf 109 G14/AS still in factory or unachived after the war picture or not?

thanks for your answer

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Hi there sgeorges4,

There are photos of Bf 109 G-14 in final assembly at Detmold, after 13 April 1945. None I know of is of the G-14/AS variant though.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...57631642100122

Cheers
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

And a new Bf 109 K-4 here:
http://photo.rgakfd.ru/showObject.do?object=1806396595

Cheers
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

thanks for your answer Marc! Do you know the book made by J-C Mermet on the 109(a second tome is on the way)

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

why are we not allow to see some picture?

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

why a lot of picture seem to have disappear(particulary on the g10)?

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

sgeorges4,


1. Photos not visible: this is due to the bad habits of some eBay sellers who took advantage of this collection for "lifting" both the photos and their caption, and then selling them for 3.99 Euros apiece, multiple reprints of course. No other choice then to protect all unmarked photos.

2. Yes, i know J.-C. M's booklet. A tad too oriented on synthesis, but well documented.


Cheers
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

god and I need some them for my model or my parody documentary(the concept look like this,sorry I don't have the word in english: https://youtu.be/WLVjx4YjZQc ,always quote the source in the description of course an in english[I want to improve myself])...

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Digging and find that K4 erla picture on one of my post in fighters:
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.c...01-swfoto..jpg

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Thanks sgoerges4,

This ultra rare photo of W.Nr. 570 375 is already known, but keep the lookout: some unknown ones could emerge any second on the net ;)


Cheers
Marc

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

dont know if already posted here,but I found picture of a ROA 109:
https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/...-109-markings/

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 

Hi there Gang,

Browsing through the Bundesarchiv records, I found this set of three photos depicting a II./JG 51 Bf 109 G-6, photographed 1943 in Southern Italy:

https://www.bild.bundesarchiv.de/arc...466892/?search[view]=detail&search[focus]=160
https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...in/dateposted/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...in/dateposted/

According th Michael Holm's site, II./JG 53 was indeed at Casa Zeppera between May and 10 July 1943 but had also detachments at Cagliari-Monserato and Senorbia. Hence my question: any idea about the actual location for this set ?

Thanks in advance
Marc