SG4 losses on 24-12-1944
 

The book 'Six Months to Oblivion' shows the loss of three pilots of SG4 this day. I have details for the loss of Obfr. Heinrich Zotloterrer seeking details of the other two please,

Regards

Brian Bines

Re: SG4 losses on 24-12-1944
 

1944-12-24, 2./SG 4, FW 190F-8, 581638, 10 schw, Raum Bastogne, Im Luftkampf abgeschoßen. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Fw Vogel, Richard, tot
1944-12-24, 3./SG 4, FW 190F-8, 933295, 8 gelbe, Raum Bastogne, Im Luftkampf vermutlich abgeschoßen. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Ofw Kobuhs, Lothar, vermißt
1944-12-24, 5./SG 4, FW 190F-8, 933478, Eichwald, südlich Schmidtheim, Unbekannt. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Uffz Paschke, Willy, tot
1944-12-24, 7./SG 4, FW 190F-8, 933272, 10 gelbe, 12 km südlich Hess.-Lichtenau, bei Kassel, Absturz infolge Bedienungsfehler bei Überführung. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Ofw Bohrmann, Rudolf, tot
1944-12-24, 8./SG 4, FW 190F-8, 586444, 10 schw, Raum Bastogne, Von Angriff auf Bastogne nicht zurück. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Ofhr Zotlöterer, Heinz, vermißt

Matti

Re: SG4 losses on 24-12-1944
 

Matti, thanks very much for your help, really appreciated,

Regards

Brian Bines

Re: SG4 losses on 24-12-1944
 

Ofw. Kobus rest at Ehrenfriedhof Sandweiler/Luxembourg. Crashed in Northern Luxembourg. Hit Overland-Wire-cabels during low-level-flying.

Fw. Vogel looks like crashed near Seffernweich Krs. Bitburg/Eifel. Burried as unkown Airmen at Bitburg-Kolmeshöhe.

From OFhr. Zotlöterers emergency landing nearby an small french village exist photos!! (French-Luxembourg Border)

Re: SG4 losses on 24-12-1944
 

Hans, thanks very much for the additional inf.,

Regards

Brian Bines

Re: SG4 losses on 24-12-1944
 

From OFhr. Zotlöterers emergency landing nearby an small french village exist photos!! (French-Luxembourg Border) 2nd August 2011 14:26
From OFhr. Zotlöterers emergency landing nearby an small french village exist photos!! (French-Luxembourg Border) 2nd August 2011 14:26
From OFhr. Zotlöterers emergency landing nearby an small french village exist photos!! (French-Luxembourg Border)

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Mercy le Bas 13 km SO Longuyon

Rémi

Re: SG4 losses on 24-12-1944
 

Did the 7th and 8th Staffel of SG 4 blong to the 2nd Gruppe or the 3rd? Did this unit add the 4th Staffel per Gruppe like the fighter units?

SG 4 reported another 6 losses on 26-Dec-44. Does anyone have any other information on Fister and Rahofer losses?

26-Dec-44, , FW 190, , Fister, Fw., , SG 4, I., I., , , , , 26-Dec-44, , Damaged, cause unknown., Injured per loss, corrected in update., RLV Ost, Gen.Qu.6.Abt.-BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/1199, p.67, , , b, F
26-Dec-44, , FW 190, , Rahofer, Fw., , SG 4, III., III., , , , , 26-Dec-44, , Damaged, cause unknown., Injured per loss, corrected in update., RLV Ost, Gen.Qu.6.Abt.-BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/1199, p.67, , , b, F
26-Dec-44, , FW 190F-8, 933475, Zunkeller, Ofw. Karl, , SG 4, III., 7., gelbe, 16 +, , , 26-Dec-44, , MIA due to Luftkampf., , RLV, WASt, , Raum Bastogne, 100%, F
26-Dec-44, , FW 190F-8, 683600, Weinreich, Ofw. Heinrich, , SG 4, II., 6., , , , , 26-Dec-44, , MIA due to Luftkampf, , RLV, WASt, , Bastogne, 100%, F
26-Dec-44, , FW 190F-8, 582293, JUNGCLAUSEN, Hptm. Heinz, , SG 4, I., 3., gelbe, 2 +, , , 26-Dec-44, , Stkp. KIA due to Luftkampf with RAF fighters., RK., RLV, WASt; Girbig, Start im Morgengrauen, , Salbing bei Borbach nördlich Soon Woods, 100%, F
26-Dec-44, , FW 190F-8, 581016, Schümer, Hptm. Erich, , SG 4, I., 1., weiße, 11+, , , 26-Dec-44, , Stfhr. KIA due to Luftkampf., , RLV, WASt, , 1km südlich Aßmannshausen, 100%, F

Re: SG4 losses on 24-12-1944
 

Ofw. Heinrich Weinreich, still missing in Action, changed after 1940 from Heer to Luftwaffe, flying a time as Erprobungsflieger for Henschel, shoot down one time 1944 in Italy.

Ofw. Karl Zumkeller, hit wireless cable near Baschleiden/Grand Dutchy of Luxembourg, burried at Sandweiler/Luxembourg

Schümer & Jungclausen, I have a problem with "Englische Jäger" over the River Rhine that day.

Re: SG4 losses on 24-12-1944
 

Dont forget Eissele,

24 12 44 III SG4 F Bastogne LFK P51 FW190 besch, unv, Eissele oblt f S, 09h20 L 10h20

Re: SG4 losses on 24-12-1944
 

Hi all,

I've been researching Fw190 losses on 24 Dec 1944 and have been trying to determine which airplane was downed by the 451st AAA(AW) on that day. The airplane was brought down by a combination of 40mm and .50 caliber fire and the pilot belly landed about 500yds from the guns that brought it down. Apparently the pilot was uninjured and was quickly captured by soldiers of the 451st.

It looks like OFhr Zotloterrer was flying this airplane as he was captured (according to Danny S. Parker's "To Win the Winter Sky") 8 miles southeast of Longuyon. The 451st took one of the propeller blades from this airplane and was quickly painted with the entire 31st AAA Group's scoreboard. That propeller blade currently resides in the entrance of the 31st Air Defense Artillery Brigade's headquarters and is property of the US Army Air Defense Artillery Museum.

I'll post some photos of it shortly.

v/r

Jonathan Bernstein
Director
US Army Air Defense Artillery Museum