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Nokose 4th September 2012 19:48

JG 52 victories
 
I've been going through the notes on my desk to clean it off and found one of interest to start this out. I'll add more as I go along. I'm sure there will be some corrections.

15May 12:10
(Don't have victory claim number yet)
Lt Erich Hartmann 7./JG 52 U-2 86544: Tiefflug

I found on this date and location the following. Near the station at Titarovskaya the U-2 flown by Leytenant Vladimir Ivanovich Ershov (senior pilot)[KIA] 274 IAP (3 IAK) and passenger Ml.Lt. Evgeniy Ivanovich Kryukov [MIA] 43 IAP (3 IAK).

Nikita Egorov 4th September 2012 20:17

Re: JG 52 victories
 
Michael,

Direct hit. This was one of Hartmann's victories. Plane belonged to headquarters of 278 IAD.

Nokose 4th September 2012 21:00

Re: JG 52 victories
 
Nikita, Thank you. I wasn't sure who the plane belonged too.

I also found this one against the VVS Black Sea Fleet.
26Sep42 near Kabardinka
Hptm Johannes Steinhoff Stab II/JG 52 15:39 & 15:40
(109) Yak-1B (#3084) 62 IAP ChF St.Lt. Dmitriy Vasilevich Plakhuta (KIA)
(110) Yak-1B (#1686) 62 IAP ChF Serzhant Kamyshan (Sorry, I don't have his full name.)
Steinhoff has the location listed as 10 km NE of Gelendshik.

Nikita Egorov 4th September 2012 21:16

Re: JG 52 victories
 
Possible. I have not seen VVS ChF accounts.

Nokose 4th September 2012 21:31

Re: JG 52 victories
 
On the Yak-1B the serial numbers were for these pilots the day they were shot down in the naval archives. One of the wrecks were recovered and I believe the pilot remains. I would like to have added Kamyshan's full name as I'm sure that someone here will write about Steinhoff one day and his name would be recorded beyond a simple file in some archive.

Nokose 4th September 2012 23:01

Re: JG 52 victories
 
The 274 IAP had two Yak-7 attacked in the area of Neberdzhayevskaya on the 15May43 but I'll limit this to the part involving JG52 (The other matched perfectly a JG3 victory). Lt Konstantin Petrovich Komardinkin was hit by Uffz Gerhard Hoffmann 4./JG52 at 11:20 75 264 at 6500 m. Nikita can probably give more information on what happen to the aircraft from his description it landed burning on Komardinkin's airfield.

Nick Hector 5th September 2012 07:21

Re: JG 52 victories
 
Hi Nokose,

I for one am interested in what happened to the Yak claimed by JG 3. Please share.

Nick

Nikita Egorov 5th September 2012 09:02

Re: JG 52 victories
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nokose (Post 154218)
The 274 IAP had two Yak-7 attacked in the area of Neberdzhayevskaya on the 15May43 but I'll limit this to the part involving JG52 (The other matched perfectly a JG3 victory). Lt Konstantin Petrovich Komardinkin was hit by Uffz Gerhard Hoffmann 4./JG52 at 11:20 75 264 at 6500 m. Nikita can probably give more information on what happen to the aircraft from his description it landed burning on Komardinkin's airfield.

I'd rather stick to the point that Hoffmann's counterpart was M/L Khalilov of 291 IAP, who was shot up at 12.20 (M.T.) in Neberdzhajevskaja area and force-landed at Abinskaja. For Shukin and Komardinkin time of sortie was 11.35-12.12 (M.T.)

yogybär 5th September 2012 10:53

Re: JG 52 victories
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nokose (Post 154206)
26Sep42 near Kabardinka
Hptm Johannes Steinhoff Stab II/JG 52 15:39 & 15:40
(109) Yak-1B (#3084) 62 IAP ChF St.Lt. Dmitriy Vasilevich Plakhuta (KIA)
(110) Yak-1B (#1686) 62 IAP ChF Serzhant Kamyshan

So, VVS used the modernized Yak-1B already in the Kuban that early. Interesting, as production only started that month - at least in GAZ 292. I always thought the type was first used in Stalingrad.

Nokose 5th September 2012 11:59

Re: JG 52 victories
 
On 23May43 05:55 near Erivan Fw Werner Quast 4./JG 52 shot down Yak-1(#25134) of the 6 GIAP ChF flown by Guards Lt. Nikolay Kirillovich Sukharev (KIA). The remains of his aircraft were recovered near Erivan.


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