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NickM 17th May 2011 02:52

want to find out about a JG26 officer...
 
Guys:

Want to find out about an apparently successful Fighter Pilot who served at some point with JG26...Found him mentioned in passing in Donald's Book but there is very little other than his last name & rank:

"Oblt Seegatz"; and three victory claims in 1941 that were numbered 14, 15 & 16.

I have been unable to anything else on this person...

Thx, ahead of time

NM

Rob Romero 17th May 2011 08:40

Re: want to find out about a JG26 officer...
 
Hptm. Hermann Segatz (40)

DK 26, 51, 5, 1 KIA on 8.3.44 in Luftkampf. Prien & Rodeike, JG 1 & 11, II, p.1167; Aders/Held, JG 51; Girbig, JG 5; Horrido

Matti Salonen 17th May 2011 11:39

Re: want to find out about a JG26 officer...
 
1942-02-06, 11./JG 1, Bf 109E-7, 856, Bei Fl.Pl. Brest-Süd, Notlandung infolge Motorschaden. Bruch 75 %.
Flugzeugführer Olt Segatz, Hermann
1944-03-08, II/JG 1, FW 190A-7, 430351, 23 weiße, Beesdau, 7 km südsüdöstlich Luckau, Absturz nach Luftkampf mit Jäger. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Hptm Segatz, Hermann, tot
Bernburg/Saale-Parkstraße, Abteilung 2, Block 3, Reihe 6

Matti

NickM 17th May 2011 16:02

Re: want to find out about a JG26 officer...
 
Thanks to all who replied; In my search I did come across Hermann Segatz but couldn't find any connection with JG26...again many thanks.

NM

Alain57 18th May 2011 08:09

Re: want to find out about a JG26 officer...
 
Hello ,

On this site you an find some more on Segatz :

http://www.aircrewremembrancesociety...anPilotsS.html

Regards
Alain57

Jim P. 18th May 2011 23:25

Re: want to find out about a JG26 officer...
 
While documenting all his claims is still a work in progress (missing #17 & 31-33), here's what I have so far:

Lname, Fname, Rank, Date, Staffel, Gruppe, JG, Claimed, Location, Time, ClaimNo, Unit_Cl, Einsatzflug, RLM, Prim_Source, Conf_No, Sec_Source, Notes
Segatz, Hermann, Ltn., 07-Jul-40, 5., II., JG 51, Spitfire, südwestlich Dover, 21.28, 1., 27, , yes, OKL, , Prien/Bock,
Segatz, Hermann, Ltn., 05-Aug-40, 5., II., JG 51, Spitfire, nördlich Cap Gris Nez, 09.56, 2., 69, , yes, OKL, , Prien/Bock,
Segatz, Hermann, Ltn., 11-Aug-40, 5., II., JG 51, Spitfire, Deal, 09.05, 3., 72, , yes, OKL, , Prien/Bock,
Segatz, Hermann, Ltn., 30-Oct-40, 5., II., JG 51, Spitfire, Themesmündung, -, 4., 145, , yes, OKL, , Prien/Bock,
Segatz, Hermann, Ltn., 28-Nov-40, 5., II., JG 51, Spitfire, Deal, 16.29, 5., 152, , yes, OKL, , Prien/Bock,
Segatz, Hermann, Ltn., 22-Jun-41, Stab II., II., JG 51, Martin (SB-2), Brest Litovsk z. Biala-Podlaska: 4300m, 12.30, 6., 187, , yes, C.2034, Anerk: Nr. 60, Prien/Bock, N. Biala-Podlaska
Segatz, Hermann, Ltn., 22-Jun-41, Stab II., II., JG 51, Martin (SB-2), Brest Litovsk z. Biala-Podlaska: 4300m, 12.30, 7., 188, , yes, C.2034, Anerk: Nr. 61, Prien/Bock, N. Biala-Podlaska
Segatz, Hermann, Ltn., 22-Jun-41, Stab II., II., JG 51, Martin (SB-2), Brest Litovsk z. Biala-Podlaska: 4300m, 12.30, 8., 189, , yes, C.2034, Anerk: Nr. 62, Prien/Bock, N. Biala-Podlaska
Segatz, Hermann, Ltn., 24-Jun-41, Stab II., II., JG 51, SB-2, -, 17.52, 9., 214, , yes, C.2036/II, Anerk: Nr. 3, Prien/Bock,
Segatz, Hermann, Ltn., 25-Jun-41, Stab II., II., JG 51, SB-2, -, 13.30, 10., 230, , yes, C.2036/II, Anerk: Nr. 5, Prien/Bock,
Segatz, Hermann, Ltn., 30-Jun-41, Stab II., II., JG 51, SB-2, -, 13.51, 11., 254, , yes, C.2036/II, Anerk: Nr. 10, Prien/Bock,
Segatz, Hermann, Ltn., 05-Jul-41, Stab II., II., JG 51, I-18, -, 18.40, 12., 299, , yes, C.2036/II, Anerk: Nr. 15, Prien/Bock,
Segatz, Hermann, Ltn., 13-Jul-41, Stab II., II., JG 51, SB-3, -, 19.00, 13., 340, , yes, C.2036/II, Anerk: Nr. 18, Prien/Bock, BC-12?
Segatz, Hermann, Ltn., 14-Aug-41, 4., II., JG 26, Spitfire, Audruicq, 15.45, 14., 177, , yes, C.2036/II, Nr.83166/42, JG 26 RL 10/261/Prien/Bock,
Segatz, Hermann, Ltn., 29-Aug-41, 4., II., JG 26, Spitfire, Nieuwpoort, 08.34, 15., 193, , yes, C.2036/II, Nr.89281/41, JG 26 RL 10/261/Prien/Bock,
Segatz, Hermann, Oblt., 21-Oct-41, 4., II., JG 26, Spitfire, Boulogne, 13.10, 16., 210, , yes, C.2036/II, Nr.89281/42, JG 26 RL 10/261/Prien/Bock,
Segatz, Hermann, Oblt., 03-Apr-42, 8., III., JG 5, Hurricane, PlQu. 37 Ost / 2085, 11.14, 18., -, , yes, Prien/Bock, , ,
Segatz, Hermann, Oblt., 02-Jun-42, 8., III., JG 5, MiG-3, Ura-Guba, 13.20, 19., -, , yes, Prien/Bock, , ,
Segatz, Hermann, Oblt., 02-Jun-42, 8., III., JG 5, MiG-3, Ura-Guba, 13.22, 20., -, , yes, Prien/Bock, , ,
Segatz, Hermann, Oblt., 14-Jun-42, 8., III., JG 5, Hurricane, Titowka, 17.15, 21., -, , yes, Prien/Bock, , ,
Segatz, Hermann, Oblt., 15-Jun-42, 8., III., JG 5, MiG-3, Wajda-Guba, 11.40, 22., -, , yes, Prien/Bock, , ,
Segatz, Hermann, Oblt., 15-Jun-42, 8., III., JG 5, MiG-3, Wajda-Guba, 11.41, 23., -, , yes, Prien/Bock, , ,
Segatz, Hermann, Oblt., 17-Jun-42, 8., III., JG 5, Hurricane, westlich Schonguij, 09.32, 24., -, , yes, Prien/Bock, , ,
Segatz, Hermann, Oblt., 17-Jun-42, 8., III., JG 5, Hurricane, westlich Schonguij, 09.34, 25., -, , yes, Prien/Bock, , ,
Segatz, Hermann, Oblt., 05-Aug-42, 8., III., JG 5, Hurricane, PlQu. 36 Ost / 39123: 2000m, 12.40, 26., -, , yes, C.2025/I, Anerk: Nr. 133, Prien/Bock,
Segatz, Hermann, Oblt., 10-Aug-42, 8., III., JG 5, Hurricane, PlQu. 37 Ost / 20854: 800m, 18.43, 27., -, , yes, C.2032/II, Anerk: Nr. 138, Prien/Bock,
Segatz, Hermann, Oblt., 10-Aug-42, 8., III., JG 5, Hurricane, PlQu. 37 Ost / 20854: 500m, 18.47, 28., -, , yes, C.2032/II, Anerk: Nr. 139, Prien/Bock,
Segatz, Hermann, Oblt., 08-Sep-42, 8., III., JG 5, P-40, PlQu. 36 Ost / 2922: 5000m, 11.34, 29., -, , yes, C.2032/II, Anerk: Nr. 165, Prien/Bock,
Segatz, Hermann, Oblt., 15-Dec-42, 8., III., JG 5, Jak-1, PlQu. 37 Ost / 3085: 5500m, 10.56, 30., -, , yes, C.2035/I, Anerk: Nr. 242, Prien/Bock, PlQu. 20 85 per claim?
Segatz, Hermann, Hptm., 21-Feb-44, Stab II., II., JG 1, B-24, PlQu. 05 Ost S / GR 2: [5km südlich Damme], 14.50, 34., -, , yes, Prien: JG 1 List f. 1202, , ,
Segatz, Hermann, Hptm., 22-Feb-44, Stab II., II., JG 1, B-17, PlQu. JN 7: 6000m [Raum Kleve], 12.25, 35., -, , yes, C.2025/I, Anerk: Nr. 57, ,
Segatz, Hermann, Hptm., 22-Feb-44, Stab II., II., JG 1, B-17 HSS, PlQu. 05 Ost S / KO: 6000m [östlich Wesel], 12.45, 36., -, , yes, C.2025/I, Anerk: Nr. 58, ,
Segatz, Hermann, Hptm., 25-Feb-44, Stab II., II., JG 1, B-17 HSS, PlQu. 05 Ost S / UT 2/5/8: [südlich Heilbronn], 13.20, 37., -, , yes, Prien: JG 1/11 List f. 1202, , ,
Segatz, Hermann, Hptm., 06-Mar-44, Stab II., II., JG 1, B-17, PlQu. 05 Ost S / FR 2: [östlich Lingen], 12.08, 38., -, , yes, Prien: JG 1/11 List f. 1203, , ,
Segatz, Hermann, Hptm., 06-Mar-44, Stab II., II., JG 1, B-17, PlQu. FR 3-FS: 6000m [östlich Diepholz], 12.10, 39., -, , yes, C.2025/I, Anerk: Nr. -, ,
Segatz, Hermann, Hptm., 08-Mar-44, Stab II., II., JG 1, B-24 HSS, PlQu. JH 4: 8000m [Luben nördlich Luckau], 14.20, 40., -, , yes, C.2025/I, VNE: ASM, ,

Johannes 19th May 2011 07:21

Re: want to find out about a JG26 officer...
 
He was born on 29th June 1917.
Those claims for 30th October 1940, 21st February 1944, 25th February 1944 and 6th March 1944 1208 hrs would appear not to have been confirmed.

He was awarded the DKiG on 25th September 1942.

Regards

Johannes

Kapper 19th May 2011 07:47

Re: want to find out about a JG26 officer...
 
Jim

He was appointed Staffelkapitan of 1.Erg/JG26 on 29 Dec 41. This became 11/JG1 on 27 Jan 42 which in turn became 8/JG5 in March 1942.

Claim #17 12-Feb-42 Spitfire over the Channel while (Oblt) Staffelkapitan 11/JG1 - source Prien's JFV series Volume 7 - note that Prien uses 'B' at the end of each claim to designate that he has evidence that the particular claim was confirmed. With this claim, there is no 'B' thus it may or may not have been confirmed! (Prein also uses n.b. to designate a claim which was rejected and not included in the personal count)

I still have a gap in Segatz record for 1943 which I suspect is when he claimed #31 - #33

Regards,

Craig...

Doug Stankey 19th May 2011 17:57

Re: want to find out about a JG26 officer...
 
All we have on this fellow is:

SEGATZ, Hermann.
(DOB: 29.06.17 in Fürstengube).
1940 Lt. in 5./JG 51.
04.41 appt Staka 2.(Schul-)/Erg. JG 51.
06.41 with Stab/JG 51.
29.12.41 Oblt., appt Staka 1.(Erg.)/JG 26.
27.01.42 Oblt., Staka in Erg.Gr./JG 26, appt Staka 11./JG 1 (to 03.42).
21.03.42 Oblt., appt Staka 8./JG 5 (to 03.43).
21.03.42 appt Staka 8./JG 5.
25.09.42 Oblt., awarded DKG, 8./JG 5.
01.04.43 in III./JG 5, promo to Hptm. (RDA to be determined).
06.43 appt Adjutant and Ia/JG 5 (to 01.44).
c. 01.02.44 Hptm., appt Kdr. II./JG 1 (to 08.03.44 KIA- N of Luckau).
Credited with c.31 air victories.

Kracker has:

Segatz, Hermann. - Hptm. -6/29/1917 Fuerstengube Puss - 40 victories - JG-26, Stab/JG-51(6/41 S.U.), 5/JG-51, Stfkpt 8/JG-5, Stfkpt 11/JG-1(1/42), Stab II/JG-1, Kdr II/JG-1(2/44) Bf 109E-3 "Black 3" &, Bf 109E-4 "Red(?) 6" both in 5/JG-51, Bf 109E-7 "Black 3" & Bf 109F-2 "Black 3" both in 8/JG-5, Fw 190A-7 Werk # 430315 "White 23" (lost 3/8/44) DK-G(9/25/42), EP, EK 1 & 2, Fighter Operational Clasp KIA 8 March, 1944 in "White 23" during aerial combat with a P-47 south of Luckau. Buried in Bernberg.Saale Abt. 2/3/6. His first victory, a Spitfire SW of Dover on 7 July, 1940, while serving in 5/JG-51. His 2nd, a Spitfire N of Cape Gris Nez on 5 August, 1940. His 3rd, a Spitfire at Deal on 11 August, 1940. His 4th, a Spitfire over the Thames on 30 October, 1940. His 5th, a Spitfire at Deal on 28 November, 1940, still in 5/JG-51. His 1st Soviet victories, three B-26's at Brest Litovak, between Biala and Podlaska on 22 June, 1941. A Soviet Hurricane on 5 August, 1942, while in 8/JG-5. Two Soviet Hurricanes on 10 August, 1942. A Soviet P-40 on 8 September, 1942. A Yak-1 on 15 December, 1942. Three victories in JG-26, nos. 14, 15 & 16. His personal emblem was the Tyrolean Eagle. I've seen his name spelled with two "e"'s. His 14th victory, a Spitfire at Audruiq on 14 August, 1941. His 15th, a Spitfire at Nieuport on 29 August, 1941. His 16th, a Spitfire at Boulogne on 10/21/41. His 34th, a B-24 5 km S of Damme on 21 February, 1944. His 37th, a B-17 (HSS) S of Heilbronn on 25 February, 1944. His 40th and last victory, the same day as his death, a B-17 (HSS) at Luben, N of Luckau, 8 March, 1944.

We hope that this helps

HLdZ
DGS


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