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Andrey Kuznetsov 12th October 2017 19:10

Bf110 WNr.4213 S2+MA
 
Chance upon in the operative reports of Air Forces South Front (VVS YuF):

22.Apr.42 07:40 Me-110 had attacked a train near Gavrilovka between Barvenkovo and Losovaya. On the 2nd run the plane struck a telegraph pole and crashed. Critically injured crew died soon thereafter.

Almost certainly it was the missing Bf110 WNr.4213 S2+MA from Stab/StG77.
But maybe take-off time is known?
07:40 MSK = 06:40 DSZ at that time.

Best regards,
Andrey

Evgeny Velichko 12th October 2017 20:11

Re: Bf110 WNr.4213 S2+MA
 
StabStaffel./St.G.77 had many locomotives on score, seems to be.

https://s1.postimg.org/2jf7otj7uj/S2_GA_2.jpg

https://s1.postimg.org/1292n2gl4b/S2_GA_3.jpg

Andrey Kuznetsov 12th October 2017 22:01

Re: Bf110 WNr.4213 S2+MA
 
Hello Evgeny,

Thanks for info. Additional argument for Bf110 from StG77

Best regards,
Andrey

Evgeny Velichko 13th October 2017 06:50

Re: Bf110 WNr.4213 S2+MA
 
I've looked through my Stabstaffel./St.G.77 photos, but I have no S2+MA, sorry.

Matti Salonen 14th October 2017 21:15

Re: Bf110 WNr.4213 S2+MA
 
1942-04-22, Stabsst./St.G 77, Bf 110 D-3, 4213, S2+MA, 90 km südwestlich Isjum
Flugzeugführer Lt Händel, Heinz, vermißt
Bordfunker Uffz Langner, Paul, vermißt
Unbekannt 04.30. Bruch 100 %.

Matti

Andrey Kuznetsov 14th October 2017 21:50

Re: Bf110 WNr.4213 S2+MA
 
Thank you, Matti!

Gavrilovka is 55 km SW Isyum (Isjum).
Time difference 06:40-04:30 = 2 h 10 m

Some discrepancy, but considering the fact that Germans didn't know exactly when and where it was happened ...
Also maybe in Soviet Op.Report the time was time of report about the event and not the time of the crash itself.

Best regards,
Andrey

Evgeny Velichko 14th October 2017 23:26

Re: Bf110 WNr.4213 S2+MA
 
4:00 could be take-off time.

Andrey Kuznetsov 16th October 2017 14:42

Re: Bf110 WNr.4213 S2+MA
 
04:30 :)
Probably yes


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