LaGG & Lavochkin Aces of World War 2
 

LaGG & Lavochkin Aces of World War 2, by George Mellinger (Osprey)

Not really a review, just a point of note (or caution!)

VVS ace Arkadiy Sukov of 41 IAP and 254 IAP is described as having shot down 6 Luftwaffe experten from JG54 with a combined "score" of 397 and 4 ritterkreuz. The 6 experten in question were (taken directly from the text)

1. 22/5/42; Lt Otto-Bruno Lörzer; II/JG54; 47 Kills; KIA
2. 9/8/42; Olt Max-Hellmuth Ostermann; St.Kap. 7/JG54; 102 Kills; KIA
3. 18/9/42; Hptm Herbert Findeisen; Gr.Kdr. II/JG54; 67 Kills; POW
4. 11/11/42; Hans-Joachim Heyer; III/JG54; 54 Kills; MIA
5. 17/12/44; Ofw Heinrich Wefers; JG54; 52 Kills, MIA
6. 3/1/45; Lt Hans-Joachim Kroschinski; St.Kap. 3/JG54; 76 Kills; WIA

Many of these facts are incorrect

1. I can find no loss for Lt Otto-Bruno Lörzer on this date (or any other JG54 loss). Lörzer is listed in some Ace lists as having 47 kills but I always thought this was doubtful.
2. The only correct date, but Ostermann was St.Kap. 8/JG54 not 7/JG54.
3. Findeisen was Gr.Kdr. II/JG54 from Feb45-May45, before that he was an aufklärer pilot with NAGr.4 during 43-44 and wasn't a POW. No JG54 losses on 18/9/42.
4. Lt Hans-Joachim Heyer was MIA 9/11/42 (not 11/11/42) whilst flying with 8/JG54.
5. Ofw Heinrich Wefers was KIA 15/1/45 (not MIA 17/12/44) with 4/JG54, there are four JG54 losses for 17/12/44 but none listed for Wefers.
6. Hans-Joachim Kroschinski was WIA 21/12/44 (not 3/1/45) as a Fw with 3/JG54 (not a Lt and St.Kap.). No JG54 losses listed for 3/1/45.

I don't know whether the author took the details of Sukov's victims from Soviet sources but obviously no effort was made to check their accuracy. Before this I was quite enjoying the book taking for granted what the author said about the VVS pilots (having few other sources to compare), but now I wander about the accuracy as little resaerch was obviously done on Sukov's victims.

If anyone could shed any light, correct the details provided by me or maybe confirm the accuracy of the claims I would like to hear about it.

Regards

Andy Fletcher

Hello Andy,

many thanks for your review / warning. Perhaps just two very short points:

- no book about Soviet aces published so far can be considered reliable - they are all based on "old" data - memoirs, doubtful secondary sources (very often "slightly" changed for propaganda purposes). I am afraid we all have to wait till the group of researchers around Mikhail Bykov publishes their book on Soviet aces based on information from Russian archives
- Heinrich Wefers of 4./JG 54 was not killed in July 1945, but already on 18.5.1945 on the Channel front, most likely a victim of Duane Beeson of 4th FG USAAF.

Hope this helps a little,

Ota

Hi Ota,

I can find no loss for Ofw Heinrich Wefers 4/JG54 on 18/5/43 but Don Caldwell lists an Ofw Heinrich Wefes 4/JG54 as KIA (P-47 (4FG - Beeson)) flying Bf109G-4 (19246; White 6+) on that date.

I agree this is probably Wefers as it is quite a coincidence and also he makes no more claims after 20/3/43. I think maybe the reason his loss doesn't show in JG54 loss lists is that 4/JG54 was sub-ordinate to JG26 at the time.

I agree with what you say about books on Soviet aces. I have Stalin's Falcons and Stalin's Eagles which are both very good but rather vague in many cases and are regarded by Russian researchers as not very accurate.

I look forward Bykov's book, especially if he has access to Soviet archives which I understand are extremely accurate once all the patriotic rhetoric has been filtered. Have you any idea when the book will be available.

Best Regards

Andy Fletcher

Wefers
 

Bf 109G-4 19246 Wefers, Ofw. Heinrich 52 4. JG 54 wei§e 6 + - 18-May-43 KIA in FSA after Luftkampf with P-47 from the 4th FG (Lt. Beeson). Loss report says III./JG 26. Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #10)-Vol.17; Caldwell, JG 26 War Diary, II, p.64 Ghistelles near Ostende 100% F

Rosipal's loss list for JG 54 has Wefers being lost in early 45!!

Hi Jim,

Thanks for confirming the date of Wefers loss.

Regards

Andy Fletcher

any wonder...?
 

Why do I not wonder??? Osprey proved once again that it is more modellers literature that reliable historical information fact literature...Many times discussed topic.
I just wonder, how they can spit out so many books so fast with such a quality.
just a thought...;)

keep checking six...

Hello
IMHO the quality of Osprey books varied greatly, some are good some bad, I think it depends entirely on the writer. For example I think the G4M Betty book is very good and there are others.
On the other hand I think that Mellinger relies almost entirely on secondary Soviet/Russian sources and that is better keep in one's mind when reading his text, but there isn't yet too much literature on Eastern Front air war and Mellinger books give at least some info on that subject. And Mellinger isn't the only writer who relies on one sided sources, in many books on western subjects still for example pilots' claims are taken as sure victories.

Juha

I agree with Juha. Just because a book is published by Osprey it doesn't mean the book is poor. The author is a far better indicator of the quality of the book. For example I think Rumanian Aces of WW2 (Dénes Bernád), Hungarian Aces of WW2 (Gyorgy Punka) and Croatian Aces of WW2 (Dragan Savic & Boris Ciglic) are excellent books, the material being well researched.

On the other hand some of the Osprey books are definately lacking in well researched info.

Regards

Andy Fletcher

Hello everybody

So, talking about russian books: How good is the series by Bergström/Mikhailov, "Black Cross/Red Star". Looks very accurate to me, well researched, but perhaps somebody has another opinion about these books?
Hans

Hi Hans,

I've only got BCRS Vol II, but personally I find the book to be most informative and balanced, with plenty of information on operations and pilots. I've got no access to primary Russian (Soviet) sources so can't say how accurate the VVS data is but I've no reason to doubt the accuracy of the research done by the Russian co-authors (Andrey Mikhailov - BCRS Vol II).

I think I read on the old TOCH forum that the BCRS series was totally one sided in its view of the air war in the east, being biased on the side of the Luftwaffe, but I don't agree, at least not in Vol II.

I look forward to Vol III.

Regards

Andy Fletcher

I very much doubt that you've read this on TOCH!, if anything there was a slight trend in the opposite direction!

..you asked for corrections Andy...
Hans-Joachim Kroschinski (WIA 21/12/44) was an Oberfeldwebel...his own account of his shoot-down is in Lorant's Fw 190 volume.. he reported having waded into a large formation of Pe-2s that morning (21/12) with his Schwarm, downed five of them (his 71-76 kills) and took a burst of fire from a sixth, a bullet going through his calf and his machine bursting into flames..he bailed out with 2nd & 3rd degree burns... He was promoted to Leutnant and awarded the RK on 17 April 45 while still recuperating in hospital...

Hello, again we are drifting away from the heading of the thread, but.
I'm not a great fan of Christer's books but at least from them one learn what VVS was, what it had and what it did. And there is much info, much on the feelings of participiants and Christer and co tell the story well. Sometimes He and his Russian co-author IMHO exaggerate the results of Soviet actions but even then one at least got the info how the Soviets view the results of their operations. For example I rather strongly disagree with their claim on BCRS Vol 2 p. 106 that the anti-shipping attacks of the Baltic Fleet's Naval Air Arm VVS-KBF "were far more effective than the LW effort to neutralize the Soviet warships..." in 1942 but at least the authors tell us that VVS-KBF had active torpedo a/c regiment flying Il-4s at that time. I just read from Harold Thiele's Luftwaffe Aerial Torpedo Aircraft and Opereations in World War Two on p. 17 that it is belived that the Handley Page Hampdens flown to the Soviet airbase at Vaenga and later turned over to the Soviets formed the nucleus of a modern Soviet airborne torpedo force. The claim is false. The first mass produced torpedo-bomber in Soviet Union had been DB-3T (an earlier version of Il-4) and it had used to equip torpedo units in 1939 -40, IIRC. Soviet union was capable to form a torpedo aircraft arm in herself. So there is clearly still need for good books on Eastern Front air war like BCRS series and probably Thiele's book is also needed to increase our knowledge on the use of torpedoplanes in LW. I haven't read yet enough of it to form an oppinion on it on its main theme.

Andy,

Just a small note: I have read just the Hungarian Aces book, but it contains mistakes and high percent of these mistakes were made not by the author, but by the publisher (editing, printing, painting mistakes)
Their another book with Hungarian details, about the WW I Austro-Hungarian aces is simply a weak one.

So, I am not a fan of the Osprey's basic style at all.

Hi Neil,

Thanks for the info on Hans-Joachim Kroschinski.

Andy Fletcher

Hi Ruy,

I may well be mistaken, but I thought that Franek was questioning some of the assertions made by Christer in his book. Maybe Franek was questioning some other point made by Christer.

Andy Fletcher

Andy
My point is that the book follows a lot of propaganda from both sides. A lot of brave and skilled guys and some bad guys on the top. I do not mention preemptive attack theory which is not discussed at all!

Hi Csaba,

The 96 page format of the Osprey "Aces" books leaves a bit to be desired, even when the author supplies accurate info it sometimes gets cut to pieces by the editor to fit the book format.

Regards

Andy Fletcher

Re: LaGG & Lavochkin Aces of World War 2
 

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"Andy,

Just a small note: I have read just the Hungarian Aces book, but it contains mistakes and high percent of these mistakes were made not by the author, but by the publisher (editing, printing, painting mistakes)

Csaba"


Eh, Csaba, tell me about it! Already the second paragraph in mine and Dragan's book (Croatian Aces) has been seen by us for the first time the moment we received the printed book and it really hurt! Especially keeping in mind it is an absolute historical nonsence, the opposite fact being known by every pupil in this part of the world.

Boris

Re: LaGG & Lavochkin Aces of World War 2
 

Boris, some days ago I received a copy of a book, which was published in the US and sounds about some military equipments. It contains some small mistakes regarding these rifles but the main problem is, that the author written a 'historical introduction' about Central Europe from medieval times (according to him, based on some well known books from the United States) It is full with very serious mistakes from the first mentioned battle, near Dürnkrut in 1278 (the book stated that in this battle Habsburg Rudolf at last defeated the Hungarians and stopped the Hungarian nomadic campaigns agains the west, however the Hungarians led their last campaign against western Europe three centuries ago and in this battle the Hungarian king, IV. László was the ally of Rudolf and they defeated the Czeczh king, Przemysl Otakar) till June, 1941 when the author stated, that Bulgaria attacked the Sovietunion (nonsense...)