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jarecki71 1st January 2013 19:30

Wreck Ju 88/188 found in Baltic Sea
 
Hi All
Interesting link:http://www.divers24.pl/nurkowanie-wr...graf-arctowski

Polish crew hydrographic ship "Arctowski" during the test sonar bottom (Klein 3900) of the Baltic Sea, came across an interesting find. The researchers were able to locate the wreck of the aircraft - bomber, dating from World War II.
Best Regards
Jarek

Pete63 3rd January 2013 00:44

Re: Wreck Ju 88/188 found in Baltic Sea
 
Jarek,

Thanks for posting. Have you got a higher resolution picture?
It's not easy to see, but I'm not yet convinced it's a Ju88 or even a 188...
It does look however that this aircraft has a four bladed prop...
I hope you will find more details...

Good luck!
Piet

jarecki71 3rd January 2013 08:29

Re: Wreck Ju 88/188 found in Baltic Sea
 
Hi Piet
In this link you can see more, pictures can be enlarged by clicking.
As for the type of aircraft is the present moment pure speculation Ju 88/188 or B 25
Soon examine wreck divers or specialized equipment, waiting time will tell.

http://www.hydrografpolski.pl/aktual...ojny-swiatowej

Best Regards

Jarek

KrisJG3 3rd January 2013 14:51

Re: Wreck Ju 88/188 found in Baltic Sea
 
:)

BR

Pete63 4th January 2013 13:29

Re: Wreck Ju 88/188 found in Baltic Sea
 
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Jarek,

I've visited the website you referred to and I must say these pictures are of better quality, but it's still difficult to see... Forget what I said about a four bladed prop, because I don't see that in the better pictures... (My mistake)

I have made a comparison of a Junkers Ju88A-4 scale drawing and put it as an overlay over the image of the wreck. The wingspan of the wreckage is about 20 metres, so an A-4 type wing will be a closer comparison than the Ju88 that was originally in the picture. (That was a Ju88A-1 aircraft which had shorter wings, by the way.)

Let's suppose - this is purely hypothetical:
If your wreck is a Junkers Ju88 - you are looking at the wings without the flaps and ailerons - those are missing... My scale drawing is from above, but the wreckage seems a bit tilted 'nose down', or should we say 'engines down' - because there the main weight will be... So that makes it harder to compare the pictures...

So if it's a Ju88, a lot of versions (starting from the A-4 wing type) will be possible... A Ju188 had a wingspan that was even (about) 2 metres larger, so the chance that it was such a type is not likely...

Just my 50 cents, for what it's worth...

Good luck with further investigations..!

Piet Bouma
The Netherlands

jarecki71 9th February 2013 19:42

Re: Wreck Ju 88/188 found in Baltic Sea
 
Hi All

Recent studies carried out in January via a robot with a camera resting confirmed the wreck at the bottom of the Baltic that this is Ju 88
The wreck lies at a depth of 25 meters and very good condition.

http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/regionalne...wiadomosc.html

Best Regards

Jarek

jarecki71 9th February 2013 21:45

Re: Wreck Ju 88/188 found in Baltic Sea
 
...this film is beter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=K4Bz7fe0pdI

Regards

Jarek

Maciej Noszczak 9th February 2013 22:25

Re: Wreck Ju 88/188 found in Baltic Sea
 
In my opinion it's Ju 88. Very interesting news.

KrisJG3 12th February 2013 21:44

Re: Wreck Ju 88/188 found in Baltic Sea
 
Here is real photos made under water:

http://www.dobroni.pl/rekonstrukcja-zdjecia,137115

http://www.dobroni.pl/rekonstrukcja-zdjecia,137115

http://www.dobroni.pl/rekonstrukcja-zdjecia,137114

http://www.dobroni.pl/rekonstrukcja-zdjecia,137113

http://www.dobroni.pl/rekonstrukcja-zdjecia,137112

http://www.dobroni.pl/rekonstrukcja-zdjecia,137111

http://www.dobroni.pl/rekonstrukcja-zdjecia,137117

edNorth 12th February 2013 22:01

Re: Wreck Ju 88/188 found in Baltic Sea
 
Hello,

Wrecks at only 25 m deep are generally in poor condition after ~70 years, too much oxygen in sea, much corrusion and many parts dragged away by nets (I think). But yes its of Ju 88 series, no way yet tell much more from these photos.

Regards
Ed


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