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ouidjat 7th December 2017 16:12

Bf 109G-14 461200
 
Hi Gents,

Was it a G-14 or G-14/AS ?
Thank you ... :)

Regards, Franck.

Rottler 7th December 2017 17:48

Re: Bf 109G-14 461200
 
Hello Franck,

the 461200 was a Bf 109 G-14/AS in which Ofhr Arnolf Russow of 15./JG 4 flew his last mission on 1 January 1945.
The aircraft was recovered at Ulbeek, Belgium in the late 1990s.
The engraving in the Werknummer plate reads "8-109 g 14 As 461200 MCU".

Source: Manrho/Pütz "Bodenplatte".

Regards
Leo

ouidjat 8th December 2017 10:54

Re: Bf 109G-14 461200
 
Thank you Leo!
Cristal clear; no more doubts then.

Regards,
Franck.

Snautzer 8th December 2017 12:08

Re: Bf 109G-14 461200
 
MCU is ERLA werk 1, Leipzig

harrison987 8th December 2017 14:42

Re: Bf 109G-14 461200
 
mmmmmmmm....

Not sure if "recovered" is the right word.

It was sitting in a farmers field, and the farmer wanted it GONE. In the 1990's the Belgium Government's rule was "if it is on your property, it is your problem".

A local drunk knew about it...and made a deal to remove the wreck as long as he gets to keep it.

So...they agreed.

he, along with some other locals, recovered what was there...a few bits were kept...the rest were sold to a scrap dealer so he could use the money for alcohol. I think he got what would be the equivalent of around 500,00 euro for everything.

The proud seller can be seen in the white shirt.

ouidjat 8th December 2017 15:46

Re: Bf 109G-14 461200
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by harrison987 (Post 243866)
mmmmmmmm....

Not sure if "recovered" is the right word.

It was sitting in a farmers field, and the farmer wanted it GONE. In the 1990's the Belgium Government's rule was "if it is on your property, it is your problem".

A local drunk knew about it...and made a deal to remove the wreck as long as he gets to keep it.

So...they agreed.

he, along with some other locals, recovered what was there...a few bits were kept...the rest were sold to a scrap dealer so he could use the money for alcohol. I think he got what would be the equivalent of around 500,00 euro for everything.

The proud seller can be seen in the white shirt.

Ah, start to be interesting ...
So, judging with the blade, it didn't crash.
A DB605 A or not ? Still a doubt ... can be build as G-14/AS and have a plate but ... surroundings are interesting too ;)

ClinA-78 8th December 2017 17:25

Re: Bf 109G-14 461200
 
Thank you Harrison to enlight me on this 'recovery'...

The version published in J. Manhro Bodenplatte puzzled me a bit too. RUSSOW was "forced to make a belly-landing". And next sentence : "The engine was located at a depth of about 5 meters".
Perhaps local researcher Rudi S. may bring info too?

Unfortunately Belgium (including the South part too) did not escape to the "gold wreckage rush" by... looters. Some of them are better known - nowadays - as aviation archaeologists.

ClinA-78

ouidjat 8th December 2017 21:27

Re: Bf 109G-14 461200
 
Hi Gents,

It seems I was right to ask about this loss.
So:
Is it possible with photos loaded by Harrison to say it was a DB605 A or a DB605 ASM ?
Is it possible to find other pictures of surroundings?

Regards,
Franck.

harrison987 9th December 2017 04:34

Re: Bf 109G-14 461200
 
100% it was an AS...as I have some engine parts from the wreck around 10 years ago...as well as some of the cowl bits that ID'd it as AS...

;)

Mike

ouidjat 9th December 2017 15:31

Re: Bf 109G-14 461200
 
Thanks Mike !


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