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Matti Salonen 15th April 2019 17:53

Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?
 
Tony,

Unfortunately not. My info is arranged according to aircraft types and versions and not according to engine models.

Matti

S Sheflin 15th April 2019 18:28

Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?
 
Hello Matti and Tony,
First, thanks yet again Matti for the additional DB-engine compendium.
To Tony, the Me410 Motornummern listed in Matti’s newest list are DB603s.
Respectfully,
Steve Sheflin

Matti Salonen 15th April 2019 18:58

Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?
 
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If anyone is still interested in DB numbers, enclosed 605 A engines, which were used in Finland.

Please note that the engine numbers may be incomplete (at least the preceding zeros omitted). This list is compiled using war-time documents and aircraft cards and the clerks have not always understood meaning of the complete serial number.

Matti

Tony Kambic 16th April 2019 21:43

Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?
 
Matti and Steve,

These can be added to the DB603 listing:

He219 A-2 WkNr 290202
DB603 A2 01602821 DB603 AA 01602842

Me410 A-2/U1 WkNr 10018 F6+WK
DB603 A2 501016 DB603 A2 500258

Tony

Dénes Bernád 16th April 2019 21:54

Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?
 
Surprisingly, the Finns have received at least two DB 605A engines, manufactured in Hungary.

KrisJG3 16th April 2019 22:03

Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?
 
But missing information about DB engines mounted in Bf109 G10 version ?


BR
Kris

schwarze-man 17th April 2019 10:04

Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?
 
Excellent posts Matti! Thankyou.:)

I would be grateful if you or anyone can comment here on my simple observations about the production numbering of the DB600 series engines.
It seems that engines were allocated to manufacture in batch numbers. Until some point around mid-1943, all DB601/605 seem to be 5 figure numbers. Also, these seem to have quite a spread at similar times so, in the summer of 1940, you can see Bf109E with engine numbers like 10xxx upto 60xxx. You can follow this pattern with increasing engine numbering but, with wide variation of the actual number blocks. I suggest this represents number block allocation in the first two numbers, so that at the same time a certain plant might be building the DB605A block 76xxx and, another plant building block 25xxx. This pattern continues through until the series gets up to the 90xxx numbers around mid 1943. There seems to then be some six-number engines but, more definitively, then come the eight-number engines that seem to maybe have a constructor code before the batch/serial number eg. the 001xxxxx or 007xxxxx type of numbers. These engines look to be the mid 1943 onwards DB605A and AS series.
It looks like the DB605D production has 9-number serials, almost all in the "batch" 01110xxxx, with the highest last4 numbered 011102699. There are some anomalies in these 109K-4 listings, with 1170xxxx 8-number listings that probably have left off the first 0, but that looks to me like another 605D "batch"/manufacturer.
Obviously, there are contradictions but, these general patterns are there, I think!? Cheers

SM

Dénes Bernád 17th April 2019 10:07

Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?
 
Was this topic of German engine numbers discussed, in detail, in any publication (book, magazine)?

schwarze-man 17th April 2019 10:19

Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomislav Haramincic (Post 267518)
Hello Steve,

I have no solid proof for the 112-xxxxx series, but if we follow the logic of markings from other known producers - for example the Daimler-Benz Motoren GmbH, Genshagen Kreis Teltow (hsq), they produced the DB605 with serials 7xxxx (A-1), 007-xxxxx (A-1, B-1, AM, ASM, ASO & ASMO) and 117-xxxxx (D,DB, DM & DMO).
That should indicate that the 112-xxxxx were produced by the same producer as the 002-xxxxx serials, which was the Niedersächsische Motorenwerke GmbH (NMW) "NiMo", Braunschweig-Querum (hss).


Thank you Tomislav! :)
I have quoted this post here for extra appreciation! Cheers

SM

schwarze-man 17th April 2019 10:21

Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dénes Bernád (Post 267712)
Was this topic of German engine numbers discussed, in detail, in any publication (book, magazine)?


Hi Dénes! I am not aware of this detail before, anywhere.:) Cheers

SM


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