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knusel 16th February 2018 13:55

Aircraft that did not quite produce a full top ace
 
Good afternoon Gentlemen,

I'm a passionate collector of top-aces-by-plane.
However, some aircraft did not manage to get included in my collection.
The following aircraft had top pilots who did not achieve 5 or more kills in that aircraft for the various reason indicated:
  • Blackburn Skua: William Lucy, 3,33 [0+7sh] kills
  • Bristol Blenheim: Reginald Peacock, 3,67 [3+2sh] kills
  • Cant Z.506: Pietro Bonannini, at least 5 kills as gunner
  • Dornier Do 24: GŁnther Weisshuhn, 13 (dubious)
  • Fairey Firefly: John Stott, 3,5 [2+3sh] kills
  • Gloster Sea Gladiator: Charles Keighly-Peach, 3,5 [3+1sh] + 1 probable
  • Grumman Avenger: Charles Henderson, 4 + 1 probable
  • Hawker Sea Hurricane: Rupert Brabner, 4,5 [4+1sh] and Richard Cork, 4,25 [4+1sh]
  • Kawasaki Ki-100: Jiro Asano, 3-10 kills
  • Mitsubishi F1M: Masaji Nioshiwaki, 3-5 kills
  • Polikarpov I-15bis: Georgi Agafonov, Pjotr Bityutski, Vassili Yefremov, Aleksandr Mironenko und Pjotr Petrov variously pronounced aces of that type, not valid according to Mikhail Bykov, Liu Shi-Sheng 3+7sh kills adding up to a value of less than 5
  • Reggiane Re.2000: Imre Panczel, 4-5
  • Reggiane Re.2005: Vittorio Minguzzi 3,08 [2+4sh] and Giulio Torresi 4+3sh
  • Supermarine Seafire: Richard Reynolds, 3,5 [2+3sh]
  • Vickers Wellington: John Robertson, 12 as gunner (dubious)
Cheers,

Michael

knusel 19th June 2018 11:02

Re: Aircraft that did not quite produce a full top ace
 
Good morning,

I have to add the Lockheed Ventura.
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=51252

Cheers,

Michael

knusel 3rd May 2019 15:33

Re: Aircraft that did not quite produce a full top ace
 
...who's the Westland Whirlwind top scorer ?

Edward L. Hsiao 1st July 2019 23:03

Re: Aircraft that did not quite produce a full top ace
 
I wonder who was the top scoring German pilot of Arado Ar-196 floatplane. The Ar-196 had seen plenty of air to air combat during WWII.

Edward L. Hsiao

knusel 2nd July 2019 14:17

Re: Aircraft that did not quite produce a full top ace
 
Hello Edward,

oh that would be interesting.
You think the Ar 196 has shot something down ?

Have a nice Tuesday,

Michael

FalkeEins 3rd July 2019 10:33

Re: Aircraft that did not quite produce a full top ace
 
see the personal account "Eine Arado Ar 196 gegen zehn Spitfire" by a Hptm Wiegmink of 1./196 in " Bordflieger im Einsatz "

knusel 3rd July 2019 11:36

Re: Aircraft that did not quite produce a full top ace
 
Sounds interesting.
I'll try to find that article.

Edward L. Hsiao 4th July 2019 02:43

Re: Aircraft that did not quite produce a full top ace
 
Gentlemen,

Well the Arado Ar-196s had in the past during WWII shot down plenty of twin-engined British Beaufighters in the North Sea,Atlantic,Aegean Sea,and elsewhere. I remember reading about a Ar-196 floatplane from the German heavy cruiser Prinz Eugen that had shot a Beaufighter in 1943. I don't what other Allied warplanes that were shot down by Ar-196s but I like to find out pretty soon!

Sincerely,

Edward L. Hsiao

Edward L. Hsiao 4th July 2019 02:46

Re: Aircraft that did not quite produce a full top ace
 
Excuse me I meant to say that the Beaufighter was shot down (destroyed) by one of Prinz Eugen's Ar-196 floatplanes.

Edward L. Hsiao

knusel 5th July 2019 21:51

Re: Aircraft that did not quite produce a full top ace
 
Hello Edward,

that's astonishing because a Beaufighter is more pugnacious than an Ar 196, isn't it ?

Have a nice weekend,

Michael


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