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Chris Goss 15th June 2018 17:00

Final Trainer Queries
 
Having gone through all of my photos, I still have 4 final questions; can anyone help me with detail on:


He 45 KE+AT
Klemm (?) SF+IC
Ju 52 TB+BS (FFS (A/B) 116)

Bf 110 PZ+ZS

Merlin 15th June 2018 17:46

Re: Final Trainer Queries
 
He 45 were KE+AP & O; KE+AT was an Ar 68 with LKS 1 during 1940 and FAR 51 during 1941

Klemm 25 SF+IC FAR 63 1940-41

Ju 52; was an Ar 65 TB+BS from FFS (A/B) 116 1940

Bf 110 PZ+ZS no such code on Bf 110
- possible Bf 110C-1 WNr. 1798 PC+ZS 1./NJS 1 1940 and lost by II./SchG 101 27.05.43

Tom Willis 15th June 2018 18:11

Re: Final Trainer Queries
 
I agree and thank Gerhard for his details.
I also have a reference to a Ju 52/3m TB+BS attached to Fliegerhorst Fritzlar on a flight from Fritzlar to Villacoublay-Sud and back to Fritzlar on 20/21.1241. The source for this was Fliegerhorst Fritzlar documents. So Chris as your source for TB+BS is a photo. Is it clear enough for the full Stkz to be clear with no ambiguities?
He45 - KE+AO was with FFS(A/B)8 - 07.41 (Fb.Hasse)
He45 - KE+AP was with FFS(A/B)82 - 12.40.

Merlin 15th June 2018 19:03

Re: Final Trainer Queries
 
sorry, I've made a mistake.

Ar 65 from FFS (A/B) 116 1940 was TF+BS

Ju 52 TB+BS:
- repaired or modified at Lemwerder until 01.40
- FFS C 9 02.41
- AS 1 Großenhain 04.41 to 07.41
- FFS C 4 09.41 to 05.44

Rasmussen 15th June 2018 21:23

Re: Final Trainer Queries
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Willis (Post 253513)
I also have a reference to a Ju 52/3m TB+BS attached to Fliegerhorst Fritzlar on a flight from Fritzlar to Villacoublay-Sud and back to Fritzlar on 20/21.1241. The source for this was Fliegerhorst Fritzlar documents.

To be precise:the flight was from Villacoublay-Süd (12.17) to Fritzlar (15.23) on 20.12.41 and from Fritzlar (10.30) to Sprottau (12.37) on 21.12.41.

Chris Goss 18th June 2018 10:40

Re: Final Trainer Queries
 
Thanks all. I have looked closely again at the Bf 110 and it is PC+ZS-any more details on its loss? There was another photo showing a Bf 110 with CC+ then the next letter is obscured and the final letter Z with the number 11 in white over the Z

Merlin 18th June 2018 11:48

Re: Final Trainer Queries
 
The second one is Bf 110D-3 WNr. 3696 CC+MZ "white 11" flown by I./NJS 1 during autumn 1941.

Chris Goss 18th June 2018 12:02

Re: Final Trainer Queries
 
Thanks Gerhard


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