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canonne 28th September 2014 21:53

Luftwaffe losses over Germany / November 1944
 
Hi all,

Please, what were the Luftwaffe losses on :

18 November 1944 ?

and 26 November 1944 ?

Air losses if possible.

Thank you very much

Philippe.

GrafWolf 29th September 2014 17:08

Re: Luftwaffe losses over Germany / November 1944
 
Hallo Philippe!

26.11.44 JG 106/7. Fw190 A-8, W.Nr.680, GU+YG,Laupheim 99%,
Ofw. Gong, Ernst wounded
26.11.44 JG 106/7. Fw190 A-8, W.Nr.294, TQ+TN,Risstissen 90%,
Uffz. Tielemann, Alfred

Grüsse aus Oberschwaben,

Wolfgang

Nordpol54 29th September 2014 18:38

Re: Luftwaffe losses over Germany / November 1944
 
@ canonne,

some more to add for the 18th Nov. 1944:

- Lt. Hans-Peter Hansen, Eidengesäß (+), 9./JG 2, Fw 190 A-9, W.-Nr. 750157, 100%

- Uffz. Reinhold Lange, Gelnhausen-Höchst (+), 9./JG 2, Fw 190 A-8, W.-Nr. 738219

- Ofhr. Otto Diehl, near Huckelheim (+), 12./JG 2, Fw 190 A-8, W.-Nr. 738229

- Uffz. Reinhold Kukowka, Eidengesäß (+), 12./JG 2, Fw 190 A-8, W.-Nr. 737359

- Uffz. Bernhard Jakob, Hof-Eich (+), 12./JG 2, Fw 190 A-9, W.-Nr. 980158

- Lt. Hellmut Lüdicke, near Gelnhausen (verw., FSA), 12./JG 2, Fw 190 A-8, W.-Nr. 734004

Best Regards
Norbert

cobrahistorian 6th June 2019 19:30

Re: Luftwaffe losses over Germany / November 1944
 
Hi all,

I’m also looking for information on Luftwaffe losses on 26 November 1944, specifically one shot down south of Dummer Lake at approximately 1245hrs local time. Flight Officer Orzelek’s claim reads as follows:

“I was Seldom Red Four at 20,000 feet when we observed a group of B-24s being attacked by e/a. On our first pass, I came directly behind a Fw190 who was firing on a B-24, which blew up in flames. My first burst showed two flashes on the left wing, and I followed him until I got in a long burst, with strikes observed all over the wings and fuselage, just behind the cockpit, and a column of smoke coming from the engine. The plane went into a lazy like roll and then straight down.”

I’m looking into B-24 losses that day as well to reconstruct the battle somewhat.

Thanks!

Jon

Laurent Rizzotti 9th June 2019 00:48

Re: Luftwaffe losses over Germany / November 1944
 
According to the Luftwaffe summary losses database:

18 November 1944
Loss date: Unit: No of Aircraft: Lost Category: Report date:
18/11/1944 I./J.G.2 1 Y Destroyed without enemy action on operational flight 27/11/1944
18/11/1944 III./J.G.2 7 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 27/11/1944
18/11/1944 III./J.G.2 1 N Damaged without enemy action on operational flight 27/11/1944
18/11/1944 III./J.G.2 1 Y Missing Due to enemy action 30/11/1944
18/11/1944 III./J.G.2 1 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 06/12/1944
18/11/1944 III./J.G.5 1 Y Destroyed without enemy action on non-operational flight 20/11/1944
18/11/1944 III./J.G.5 1 N Damaged without enemy action on non-operational flight 20/11/1944
18/11/1944 I./J.G.53 1 Y Missing Due to enemy action 25/11/1944
18/11/1944 I./J.G.53 1 N Damaged without enemy action on non-operational flight 08/12/1944
18/11/1944 II./J.G.53 1 N Damaged by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, not observed by enemy 21/11/1944
18/11/1944 II./J.G.53 5 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 22/11/1944
18/11/1944 III./J.G.53 1 Y Missing Due to enemy action 21/11/1944
18/11/1944 III./J.G.53 5 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 21/11/1944
18/11/1944 III./J.G.53 1 N Damaged by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, not observed by enemy 21/11/1944
18/11/1944 III./J.G.53 1 N Damaged on the ground by gunfire from enemy aircraft 21/11/1944
18/11/1944 IV./J.G.53 1 Y Destroyed without enemy action on non-operational flight 22/11/1944
18/11/1944 I./J.G.54 1 Y Destroyed on the ground by enemy bombs 25/11/1944
18/11/1944 I./J.G.54 4 N Damaged on the ground by enemy bombs 25/11/1944
18/11/1944 I./J.G.54 1 N Damaged on the ground by enemy gunfire from ground forces 07/12/1944
18/11/1944 II./J.G.54 1 Y Destroyed without enemy action on operational flight 02/12/1944

26 November 1944
26/11/1944 I./Erg.J.G.1 2 Y Destroyed without enemy action on non-operational flight 08/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./Erg.J.G.1 1 Y Destroyed without enemy action on non-operational flight 01/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./Erg.J.G.1 1 Y Destroyed without enemy action on non-operational flight 05/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./Erg.J.G.1 1 N Damaged without enemy action on non-operational flight 05/12/1944
26/11/1944 Stab/J.G.1 1 Y Missing Due to enemy action 01/12/1944
26/11/1944 Stab/J.G.1 1 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 01/12/1944
26/11/1944 I./J.G.1 1 Y Destroyed by other enemy action 30/11/1944
26/11/1944 I./J.G.1 1 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 01/12/1944
26/11/1944 I./J.G.1 1 N Damaged by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, not observed by enemy 01/12/1944
26/11/1944 I./J.G.1 1 Y Destroyed without enemy action on operational flight 01/12/1944
26/11/1944 I./J.G.1 1 N Damaged without enemy action on operational flight 01/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./J.G.1 2 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 02/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./J.G.1 4 Y Missing Due to enemy action 04/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./J.G.1 2 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 04/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./J.G.1 1 N Damaged by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, not observed by enemy 04/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./J.G.1 1 N Damaged without enemy action on operational flight 04/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./J.G.1 4 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 05/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./J.G.1 1 N Damaged by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, not observed by enemy 05/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./J.G.1 1 N Damaged by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, not observed by enemy 07/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./J.G.1 1 Y Destroyed without enemy action on operational flight 11/12/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.2 1 N Damaged without enemy action on operational flight 05/01/1945
26/11/1944 I./J.G.3 4 Y Destroyed without enemy action on operational flight 15/12/1944
26/11/1944 I./J.G.3 1 Y Destroyed without enemy action on operational flight 23/12/1944
26/11/1944 I./J.G.3 1 N Damaged without enemy action on operational flight 23/12/1944
26/11/1944 I./J.G.3 1 N Damaged without enemy action on non-operational flight 23/12/1944
26/11/1944 I./J.G.4 1 Y Destroyed without enemy action on operational flight 05/12/1944
26/11/1944 I./J.G.6 1 N Damaged without enemy action on non-operational flight 08/12/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.6 1 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 04/12/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.6 10 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 09/12/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.6 1 N Damaged by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, not observed by enemy 14/12/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.6 1 Y Destroyed without enemy action on operational flight 14/12/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.6 1 N Damaged without enemy action on operational flight 14/12/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.6 1 N Damaged without enemy action on non-operational flight 10/01/1945
26/11/1944 III./J.G.6 1 Y Destroyed without enemy action on operational flight 11/01/1945
26/11/1944 III./J.G.7 1 Y Destroyed without enemy action on non-operational flight 05/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./J.G.11 1 N Damaged without enemy action on operational flight 04/12/1944
26/11/1944 I./J.G.26 1 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 04/12/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.26 1 Y Missing Due to enemy action 06/12/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.26 1 N Damaged by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, not observed by enemy 06/12/1944
26/11/1944 I./J.G.27 1 N Damaged without enemy action on operational flight 01/12/1944
26/11/1944 I./J.G.27 1 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 04/12/1944
26/11/1944 I./J.G.27 1 N Damaged by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 06/12/1944
26/11/1944 I./J.G.27 1 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 11/12/1944
26/11/1944 I./J.G.27 1 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 12/12/1944
26/11/1944 I./J.G.27 2 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 15/12/1944
26/11/1944 I./J.G.27 2 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 23/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./J.G.27 6 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 07/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./J.G.27 1 N Damaged by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 07/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./J.G.27 1 Y Destroyed on the ground by gunfire from enemy aircraft 07/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./J.G.27 3 N Damaged without enemy action on operational flight 07/12/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.27 1 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 01/12/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.27 1 N Damaged without enemy action on operational flight 01/12/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.27 4 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 04/12/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.27 1 N Damaged by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, not observed by enemy 04/12/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.27 1 N Damaged on the ground by gunfire from enemy aircraft 04/12/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.27 1 Y Destroyed without enemy action on operational flight 04/12/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.27 1 N Damaged without enemy action on operational flight 04/12/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.27 4 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 06/12/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.27 1 N Damaged by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, not observed by enemy 06/12/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.27 1 Y Missing Due to enemy action 07/12/1944
26/11/1944 IV./J.G.27 7 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 04/12/1944
26/11/1944 IV./J.G.27 1 N Damaged by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, not observed by enemy 04/12/1944
26/11/1944 IV./J.G.27 2 N Damaged without enemy action on operational flight 04/12/1944
26/11/1944 IV./J.G.27 1 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, not observed by enemy 05/12/1944
26/11/1944 IV./J.G.27 1 Y Destroyed without enemy action on operational flight 05/12/1944
26/11/1944 IV./J.G.27 1 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 06/12/1944
26/11/1944 I./J.G.53 1 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, not observed by enemy 02/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./J.G.53 2 Y Destroyed by anti-aircraft artillery during operational flight 29/11/1944
26/11/1944 II./J.G.53 1 N Damaged without enemy action on operational flight 15/12/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.53 1 Y Destroyed without enemy action on operational flight 29/11/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.53 1 N Damaged without enemy action on operational flight 29/11/1944
26/11/1944 IV./J.G.53 1 Y Missing Due to enemy action 30/11/1944
26/11/1944 IV./J.G.54 1 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 01/12/1944
26/11/1944 IV./J.G.54 3 Y Destroyed on the ground by gunfire from enemy aircraft 01/12/1944
26/11/1944 IV./J.G.54 1 N Damaged without enemy action on operational flight 01/12/1944
26/11/1944 IV./J.G.54 2 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 06/12/1944
26/11/1944 IV./J.G.54 1 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 12/12/1944
26/11/1944 I./J.G.301 7 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 04/12/1944
26/11/1944 I./J.G.301 2 Y Missing Due to enemy action 08/12/1944
26/11/1944 I./J.G.301 6 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 08/12/1944
26/11/1944 I./J.G.301 1 N Damaged by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 08/12/1944
26/11/1944 I./J.G.301 2 N Damaged without enemy action on operational flight 08/12/1944
26/11/1944 I./J.G.301 1 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 09/12/1944
26/11/1944 I./J.G.301 1 Y Missing Due to enemy action 10/12/1944
26/11/1944 I./J.G.301 1 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 10/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./J.G.301 1 N Damaged without enemy action on operational flight 01/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./J.G.301 3 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 04/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./J.G.301 2 Y Destroyed without enemy action on operational flight 04/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./J.G.301 3 Y Missing Due to enemy action 05/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./J.G.301 6 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 05/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./J.G.301 1 N Damaged by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, not observed by enemy 05/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./J.G.301 1 Y Missing Due to enemy action 06/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./J.G.301 2 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 06/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./J.G.301 1 Y Destroyed without enemy action on operational flight 06/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./J.G.301 1 N Damaged without enemy action on operational flight 06/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./J.G.301 1 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 07/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./J.G.301 1 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 08/12/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.301 1 N Damaged by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, not observed by enemy 04/12/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.301 3 N Damaged without enemy action on operational flight 04/12/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.301 3 Y Missing Due to enemy action 05/12/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.301 6 Y Destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy 05/12/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.301 3 N Damaged by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, not observed by enemy 05/12/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.301 1 Y Destroyed without enemy action on operational flight 05/12/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.301 2 N Damaged without enemy action on operational flight 05/12/1944
26/11/1944 III./J.G.301 1 Y Destroyed without enemy action on operational flight 11/12/1944
26/11/1944 J.Gr.10 1 Y Destroyed without enemy action on non-operational flight 05/12/1944
26/11/1944 II./K.G.(J) 6 1 N Damaged without enemy action on non-operational flight 04/12/1944

drgondog 21st June 2019 00:50

Re: Luftwaffe losses over Germany / November 1944
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cobrahistorian (Post 270267)
Hi all,

I’m also looking for information on Luftwaffe losses on 26 November 1944, specifically one shot down south of Dummer Lake at approximately 1245hrs local time. Flight Officer Orzelek’s claim reads as follows:

“I was Seldom Red Four at 20,000 feet when we observed a group of B-24s being attacked by e/a. On our first pass, I came directly behind a Fw190 who was firing on a B-24, which blew up in flames. My first burst showed two flashes on the left wing, and I followed him until I got in a long burst, with strikes observed all over the wings and fuselage, just behind the cockpit, and a column of smoke coming from the engine. The plane went into a lazy like roll and then straight down.”

I’m looking into B-24 losses that day as well to reconstruct the battle somewhat.

Thanks!

Jon

Try using this as a start .. never mind. upload doesn't work with Docx andmy pdf file slightly too big. email me @ marshall_william at Hotmail. put 26 November in subject block. The 355th and 361st did the most damage east and south of Hannover


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