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Maciej Góralczyk 15th December 2018 11:58

Real Colors of WWII Aircraft
 
My latest completion - please check the link below for description and sample pages:
https://ak-interactive.com/product/r...wwii-aircraft/

I would like to thank all researchers and photo collectors, some of whom are members of this board, who helped in making this book: Franck Benoiton, Dénes Bérnad, Craig Busby, Dino Cerutti, Boris Ciglić, Alex Crawford, James V. Crow, Dani Egger, Sųren Flensted, Chris Goss, Brett Green, Robert Gretzyngier, Marc-André Haldimann, Thomas Hesse, Bjarne V. Jansen, Adam Jarski, Phil Listemann, Dan Manthos, Georg Morrison, Mikael Olrog, Robert Pęczkowski, Tomas Prusa, Harald Rabeder, Sergio Luis dos Santos, Sinisa Sestanovic, Brian Spurr, Paul Stipdonk, Akira Takiguchi, Massimo Tessitori, Chris Thomas, John Vasco, David Weiss, and particularly my great friend Erik Mombeeck.

Best regards,
Maciej

Sergio Luis dos Santos 15th December 2018 12:43

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Congrats Maciej!

ouidjat 15th December 2018 13:37

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Well done Maciej !
We all are eager to read the book ... and ready for future comments. :)
Best regards,
Franck.

Falcon 15th December 2018 13:45

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Good work. :-)

edwest2 15th December 2018 20:38

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Congratulations. Now, perhaps, maybe it will be possible to find out if a certain RLM color did, in fact, exist.




Ed :)

Doug Norrie 16th December 2018 00:46

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Hi,
Can you tell me why Japan was left out. Surely it was one of the main players.


Doug

Maciej Góralczyk 16th December 2018 02:45

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Thank you Gentlemen!

Doug, the aircraft book follows the format of the earlier armour book, which also discussed German, U.S., British and Soviet colours. Please be aware that the main customer base of the publisher are modellers (the books are followed by specific paint ranges released together with them), and Japanese subjects unfortunately have quite low position on this market.

Sergio Luis dos Santos 16th December 2018 13:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maciej Góralczyk (Post 262152)
Thank you Gentlemen!

Doug, the aircraft book follows the format of the earlier armour book, which also discussed German, U.S., British and Soviet colours. Please be aware that the main customer base of the publisher are modellers (the books are followed by specific paint ranges released together with them), and Japanese subjects unfortunately have quite low position on this market.


Then the book losses a potential market in Japan... and from other modellers around the world with real interest in Japanese aviation.

Maciej Góralczyk 16th December 2018 15:51

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There is quite a number of Japanese publications on the subject, which are rather more accessible to the locals than books published in English. Regarding other countries - the interest of the market in this subject isn't substantial enough, we can assess this judging by the sales of related products, f.e. paints for Japanese aircraft models.

ouidjat 16th December 2018 20:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by edwest2 (Post 262138)
Congratulations. Now, perhaps, maybe it will be possible to find out if a certain RLM color did, in fact, exist.
Ed :)

Yes.

Sergio Luis dos Santos 17th December 2018 13:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maciej Góralczyk (Post 262185)
There is quite a number of Japanese publications on the subject, which are rather more accessible to the locals than books published in English. Regarding other countries - the interest of the market in this subject isn't substantial enough, we can assess this judging by the sales of related products, f.e. paints for Japanese aircraft models.


Ok.

Dénes Bernįd 18th December 2018 15:03

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I have ordered it a few days ago. I am eagerly waiting for its arrival!

MW Giles 19th December 2018 10:23

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One question please, in the blurb about the book it states "Included is the latest information on the Luftwaffe’s late war colors, which have been reproduced as scale colors on the basis of the original paint factory recipes by Gerald T. Högl and Jürgen Kiroff."

Are the colours in the book as per the factory spec (whatever that means 70 odd years later) or has someone played about with them by adding random quantities of white to lighten the colour, as per the nebulous scale colour theory?

You can probably tell that I am not a great believer in scale colour.


Martin

Maciej Góralczyk 19th December 2018 14:10

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The book includes a sub-chapter on the scale colour theory (which is not just adding a little white) which explains how this was done.

MW Giles 19th December 2018 16:27

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Therefore are the colours in the book true, or have they all been adulterated in some undefined way?

Or are the colours in the book true and it is only the paints, if I were to buy them, modified according to scale colour theory?

Martin

Maciej Góralczyk 19th December 2018 17:01

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The German colours are altered to the scale colour theory, based on the calculations made from the l*a*b* values of the original colours. Reproductions of the colour cards added to L.Dv. 521/1 (both 1938 and 1941 edition) are also included, along with a photo of RLM 83 recipe and colour card made on the basis of this recipe, using the same components. The process of reproducing the late war colours was very time-consuming and troublesome, as many of the components are now banned from industrial use in EU.

MW Giles 19th December 2018 17:55

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Thank you for taking the time to explain. Good luck with the book

Martin

edwest2 5th March 2019 18:51

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Available now.

http://www.christian-schmidt.com/pro...ducts_id=10419

Ed


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