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Marc-André Haldimann 30th April 2019 16:54

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Again on offer is this shot of Bf 109 G-6/R2 W.Nr. 165 259 (?) "Gelbe 2" (?), 3./NAGr. 13, Nancy-Tomblaine, late 1944. Location and possible W.Nr. courtesy of Steve Sheflin, Bf 109 from Anton to Toni Group, FB, 13 December 2018.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Org-Photo-U...8AAOSwSldcx8c6

Marc-André Haldimann 16th May 2019 23:16

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
One of the those unexpected and so surprising photos: at least 4 Bf 109 G fuselages from former 101 Vadaszezred stored at Budapest Matyasföld airfield, photographed 1 May 1948 by László Rósza, MTI, via https://archivum.mtva.hu/photobank/i...Q1UDVxcTJWUT07

With all my thanks to Tamás Derner, from Magyar Kir. Honvéd Légierö Group, FB, 16 May 2019, for the pointer.

Cheers
Marc

edwest2 16th May 2019 23:23

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
There was a secret aircraft factory in Hungary during the war.

https://gizmodo.com/the-caves-that-h...ory-1741803956

Marc-André Haldimann 16th May 2019 23:30

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Thanks Ed, for putting this cave factory together with this Matyasföld find. Was it also an MWG operated plant ?

Cheers
Marc

edwest2 16th May 2019 23:46

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Hi Marc,

Is MWG the same as Manfred Weiss?

Ed

Marc-André Haldimann 17th May 2019 07:09

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Hi Ed,

To my knowledge, MWG stands for Magyar Wagon és Gépgyar (MWG). This plant was created for producing railway engines and carriages. Information in english over this producer can be found in Dénes Bernad and Charles Kliment's books "Magyar Warriors: The History of the Royal Hungarian Armed Forces, 1919-1945" here:

https://books.google.ch/books?id=TP4...20Györ&f=false

So Manfred Weiss was a different producer but which pooled up with MWG and others for the war effort.

Cheers
Marc

Marc-André Haldimann 10th July 2019 07:18

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Hi there, Gang,

Thanks to Tomas Prusa's pointer, we have here a superlative color photo of a WNF DIANA-Tischnau/Tisnov built Bf 109 G-10/U4, thought to be from the W.Nr. 612xxx production batch, exhibited at Tisnov square in May 1945 after the liberation of the city.

Source: City of Tisnov exhibition via modelforum.cz, courtesy of Jindrich Rosa, 9 July 2019.

https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic....SNkQM#p2230502

Cheers
Marc

Falcon 10th July 2019 16:51

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Nice!
The plane does not look airworthy. Is there the WNr. still on the tail? I think there are black numbers...

Btw, that is the same, right?
https://me109.info/display.php?a=e&l=en&fid=11068

Nick Beale 10th July 2019 17:13

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Falcon (Post 271591)
Nice!
The plane does not look airworthy.

It looks to me as if the wing root fairing is missing.

Marc-André Haldimann 11th July 2019 09:18

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Nick,

You're absolutely correct; this plane was moved with wings removed from the Tisnov railway station to the town square, hence the missing wing root fairing.

Falcon,

You're correct, it is the same plane at the same location; too bad the W.Nr. in its usual WNF position, can't be read. The known W.Nr.'s of the other planes found at war's end in the DIANA WNF tunnel factory next to Tisnov do point towards a W.Nr. in the 612 8xx range.

Cheers
Marc


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