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Marc-André Haldimann 9th October 2011 14:12

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
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Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 135446)
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Actually, the ones with late war standardized tails which seem common with the K-4 camouflage pattern are very rare. The only one I know about is Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. 491 300, Gardelegen 14 April 1945. Luftwaffe im Focus 2, p. 34.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...57625208099917

Cheers
Marc

Working on the database, I just noticed I forgot to post the following Erla G-10 among the late war standardized camouflage patterns tails:

Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr.152 354 "Schwarze 2", I./JG 4, Kleinhau, 18 December 1944. Hildebrandt 1988, p. 5
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream

Cheers
Marc

Rasmussen 9th October 2011 17:23

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
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Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 135521)
Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr.152 354 "Schwarze 2", I./JG 4, Kleinhau, 18 December 1944. Hildebrandt 1988, p. 5
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream

Marc,

how I wrote --- be careful with captions taken from other books! Your "Erla G-10" with "late war standardized camouflage pattern tails" is the Bf 109G14/AS W.Nr. 782354 "black 2" from 14./ JG 4, Oblt. Ernst Scheufele. Beside this ... an Erla W.Nr. 152 354 didn't exist.

Regards
Rasmussen

Oberst 9th October 2011 18:04

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
The autographed fotos of Fhr. Theo Nau's machine of 7./JG 11, is actually a Bf 109G-14/AS, W.Nr.784 ??? , 'gelbe 18'.

Marc-André Haldimann 9th October 2011 21:06

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rasmussen (Post 135532)
Marc,

how I wrote --- be careful with captions taken from other books! Your "Erla G-10" with "late war standardized camouflage pattern tails" is the Bf 109G14/AS W.Nr. 782354 "black 2" from 14./ JG 4, Oblt. Ernst Scheufele. Beside this ... an Erla W.Nr. 152 354 didn't exist.

Regards
Rasmussen

Rasmussen,

Thanks again for correcting me; I'm deeply indebted to all researchers who help correcting the content of this database.
Looking also forward to be one of your first avid reader for your upcoming Erla book;-)


Oberst,

Thanks for your precision.

Cheers
Marc

von Lutz 10th October 2011 00:37

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
The crashed enemy aircraft reports for the following aircraft report different marking colors:

G-14 WN460520 Blue 11 (not Black) I have 2 additional views of this aircraft.

G-14 WN610783 Red 11 (not Yellow) I have an additional right side view of this aircraft.

von Lutz

Marc-André Haldimann 10th October 2011 17:15

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Thanks Richard for your corrections!

I will add them later tonight with due credit

Cheers
Marc

Oberst 10th October 2011 18:58

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
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heres an interesting rudder picture. RLM 76 it looks like(?). I think this is a G-14.

veltro 10th October 2011 20:04

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
The rudder is angled and fully hit by the sunlight at a rather low height... Not the best conditions to determine anything, IMHO.

And yes, it is a classical G-14.

Pilot 10th October 2011 20:55

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
It could be with easy RLM76...

Cpt_Farrel 10th October 2011 21:21

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
It's an Erla built Bf109G-14 and it's either quite dirty or maybe it's the low light in combination with the semigloss paint that makes the 76/75/74 camoflage loose it's contrast. The rudder as well as the rest of the tail should be RLM76 mottled in the topcolors. Although hard to spot it looks like the typical "spotted mottle" used on Erla 109's at least in 1943 and 1944.


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