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Marc-André Haldimann 15th October 2011 16:07

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Updated the stream with following machines

Bf 109 G-8 W.Nr. 200 2..
Bf 109 G-8 W.Nr. 201 231

Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. 781 993
Bf 109 G-14/AS W.Nr. 786 331

Cheers
Marc

Marc-André Haldimann 15th October 2011 16:31

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Hi there Gang!

I have an issue with the following G-6:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...57625383083572

The W.Nr. is barely legible as (1)63 606 and if confirmed points on a Mtt Regensburg Bf 109 G-6. As for the unit, my first thought was for a JG 26 plane, given the small white band and what I took as an equivalent black band, thus being the JG 26 RVB.

On scrutinizing the photograph, I'm not sure anymore about this interpretation. One will notice the very dark though mottled camouflage, and it could be thus possible that only a white band was applied.

Lastly, there is a location issue: according to FrankD8, the original e-bay seller ascertained this machine was found at Salzburg. The landscape and especially the tall pines does not make this really likely.

Any thoughts on those issues are highly appreciated
Marc

Pilot 15th October 2011 16:59

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
High tail, maybe not G-6?

Marc-André Haldimann 15th October 2011 17:10

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Those were easily retrofitted, Srecko... not a definitive clue, alas.

What do you think of this very peculiar camouflage?

Cheers
Marc

Oberst 15th October 2011 17:15

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Looks to be a training aircraft to me. I've seen that band before on some.. JG101(?) I think?

Marc-André Haldimann 15th October 2011 17:23

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Danke Oberst!

Incidentally, this was your 109th post ;-)))

Cheers
Marc

Pilot 15th October 2011 17:32

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 135821)

What do you think of this very peculiar camouflage?

Cheers
Marc

Extra dark shade could be late war color and extra dark on tail is like hand painted late war purple brown (?) shade as seen on some preserved relics. Demarcation of dark top color is sharply visible at rear fuselage behind band. Very dark two shades on top wing... RLM81 and 82?

ChristianK 15th October 2011 17:37

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Hi all,
FrankD8 is my newly created Flickr account. Original source of those "Salzburg" images and additional info can be found here: http://www.luftwaffe-experten.org/fo...=1&#entry55512

The owner labeled these shots as "Salzburg", but of course he could have remembered wrongly. This happened not so seldom as one might think.

Regards,
Christian

Marc-André Haldimann 15th October 2011 17:43

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Thanks for your input Srecko; if you look at the other two pictures of this machine, one can notice it has a replacement engine cowling (and engine?) and that the remainder of the fuselage is in a very heavy dark mottle.

As for the wing camouflage pattern would a combination of RLM 81 and RLM 83 be out of place? All told, this machine is, excepting the Bodenwöhr RLM 76 snake pattern on the lower fuselage, quite a close match for the Bf 109 K-4 "Weisse 8" of II./JG 52 you can find here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...57625380126592

Though shifting on the red, this color shot does show RLM 81 and another dark green (RLM 83?).

Cheers
Marc

Marc-André Haldimann 15th October 2011 17:46

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Danke Christian!

For your inputs on the stream;-)) Maybe Simon will help us here to check for the plausibility this being Salzburg? The vegetation strongly speaks against this, though...

Cheers
Marc


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