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Marc-André Haldimann 15th August 2012 00:14

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
I just found three pictures of a Bf 109 G-10 which performs a RATO assisted take-off; they are currently for sale on Ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-German-L...#ht_500wt_1144

Here for the sake of a lasting link:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream

Any idea as to where and when? Quite a fascinating insight in late war Bf 109 trials I've never seen published so far...

Cheers
Marc

Rasmussen 15th August 2012 08:24

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 153005)
I just found three pictures of a Bf 109 G-10 which performs a RATO assisted take-off; they are currently for sale on Ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-German-L...#ht_500wt_1144

Not real an G-10 (only the fuselage/ engine) ... it's the Avia C-10 (S-99), sign V-9 (later OK-BYA or OK-4381). The a/c was tested with the rockets in VLU Letnany in 1946/47 (for example Mjr. Jiri Manak on 02.10.46 seven take offs, 03.10. eight, 25.06.47 two). The pictures are well known since 70th years and often published (in Czech sources, for example in letectvi + kosmonautika).

Best regards
Rasmussen

Marc-André Haldimann 15th August 2012 09:45

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Many thanks Jörg!

I've never seen the publications your refer, hence my error. Great to know this.

Sincerely
Marc

Marc-André Haldimann 20th August 2012 23:33

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Folks,

The late war Bf 109's need you!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream

I have this GunCam shot from a twisting Bf 109 G for which I have the following information:

Bf 109 G-6 or G-14 W.Nr. unknown, ?/JG 3, near Mulhouse, France, 16 August 1944. Source: vnafwing.com. This machine was ultimately shot down by 2nd Lt. Richard C. Penrose, 504 FS, 339 FG. Courtesy of CAG, VNAFWING Forum, 15 February 2007.

I surmise it's a JG 3 plane as the white tail band is conspicuous... Who could shed more light on the pilot's and the plane's identity?

Thanks in advance
Marc

Marc-André Haldimann 22nd August 2012 09:33

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Thanks to Tomas Prusa, over on modelforum.cz, here is maybe another piece of evidence in the growing "JGr 300" file:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream
http://modelforum.cz/download/file.p...6432&mode=view

"Gelbe 6" has all the Erla built Bf 109 G-10 features (small wing bumps, long tail wheel) and this is the best close-up of the Blue-white-blue RV band with the short II Gruppe bar across it we have so far. Thanks to Neil's excellent summary here, we now are more in the picture about JGr 300, the result of the amalgamation of II. and III./JG 300 in late April 1945 (Luftflottenkommando 6 ORB, 3 May 1945):
http://falkeeins.blogspot.ch/2012/08...pril-1945.html

Any ideas as to where this shot was taken?

Cheers
Marc

ChristianK 22nd August 2012 09:58

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
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Hi Marc,

nice find! This one was captured at Neubiberg, attached you find two additional photos. The first one from a veteran site, the other from a Kagero volume (Ju 88 Vol.3 I think).

Regards,
Christian

Marc-André Haldimann 22nd August 2012 10:28

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Hallo Christian,

Excellent, great to know where this machine was found! Thanks for the two other pics: the first one I have already posted on Flickr, I will add the second one.

Cheers and thanks!
Marc

Marc-André Haldimann 23rd August 2012 05:39

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
The more I fiddle with this pic, the more I get the impression we might have as much as two JGr 300 Bf 109 G-10 and K-4...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream

Hard to be definitive about it: the print quality is too blurry...

Cheers
Marc

Nick Beale 23rd August 2012 13:01

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
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The IWM collection has the same scene from a slightly different angle (see attached crop, adjusted for shadows/highlights) although I don't recall ever seeing it published. The one marking you can see clearly is second from the right, apparently "white 5" with a JG 27 fuselage band.

Jochen Prien 23rd August 2012 13:14

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Nick,

I think I have it published and duly attributed oit top the I.W.M. in the pictorial unit history of Stab and I/JG 27, which came out some 13 years ago.

Regards

Jochen


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