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Marc-André Haldimann 27th September 2012 22:26

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Dear Unikum,

Thanks a lot again for your help. Many of the pics you kindly post are already on Flickr, but not all. I discovered with a huge pleasure:

- the 13./JG 300 Bf 109 G-14 in Reinslehen, October 1944.
- the possibly JG 300 "Schwarze 14", another of the Bf 109 G-14 surrounding Ju 290 W.Nr. 110 162 "9V+EK" at Salzburg Maxglan airfield in May 1945.
- and the fine Erla G-14 with the GI posing in front.

Really a G-14 evening here in Geneva. Thanks for that, Unikum, and thanks for helping me expand this visual encyclopedia of late war Bf 109's.
Marc

Marc-André Haldimann 28th September 2012 07:58

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Hi there Gang,

Having now more then 2'000 referenced late war Bf 109 pics available on Flickr, I just created new sets for grouping by airfields all those Bf 109 pics. This will make it easier to cross reference the photos. Given time, it'll probably allow us to identify more machines.

I seize this opportunity to thank you all for your continuous support and inputs; we're really building up together a visual reference tool which I hope will help all researches.
Marc

unikum 28th September 2012 20:34

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Marc-André Haldimann 29th September 2012 11:02

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Excellent, Unikum:

Here is what I can say towards your latest attachments:

1. Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. unknown "Schwarze 3 or 8", unit and location unknown, Germany, Autumn 1944. I'm pretty sure the RK pilot can be identified. Who knows more?
2. Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. unknown, "Weisse 7", 13./JG 5, Sola, Summer 1945.
3. Bf 109 G-6/R6 W.Nr. and unit unknown, Hangelar (?), 5 March 1944. A very interesting shot thanks to the caption I read only partially. Who can help reading more?
4-5. Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. unknown "Weisse 1", I. or III./JG 27, Germany, Spring 1945. The case for a G-10 is won by the 56 liters oil tank filler cap, clearly in the high position.
6.Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. unknown "Weisse 1", II./JG 52, Neubieberg, Summer 1945.

Thank so much Unikum. Looking forward for your next posts!
Marc

Charles Bavarois 29th September 2012 11:59

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Hello Marc,

let me add some thoughts on the fotos in your last posting:

#1
shows a rather scruffy Bf109 with a retrofitted Erlahaube. So this is a Bf109G-6, not a G-14. Most interesting is the old-fashioned high antenna-mast, something I have not seen yet with Erlahauben. As for the pilot: I can't see a Ritterkeuz. Are my eyes getting old and tired?

#3
I don't want to act like a wisenheimer, but I'd like to point at the fact, that there never was something like a Bf109G-6/R6. This labeling is pure fiction invented a long time ago by some writers and since then repeated over and over again. There is no common agreement how to name such a/c, I myself use "Bf109G-6 with Rüstsatz VI" (or "Rüstsatz 6" oder "Gondelwaffen").

The writing on the back of the foto may be
"In xxxxxx Liebe"
"xxxx Mann"
München, d. 5.3.44"
what may be translated as
"Forever loving you"
"your husband"
"Munich, 5th March 1944"

Time and location point towards an aircraft from JG3 which was in southern Bavaria in early sping 1944.


#6
is indeed one of the IIJG52 aircraft flown over to Neubiberg to surrender.
As you can see, it has an overpainted "PIK-AS" shield on its cowlings and therefore is one of the former IJG53 planes, incorporated into IIJG52, when IJG53 was disbanded in April 1945.

HTH

Carl

Marc-André Haldimann 29th September 2012 15:34

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Hallo Charles,

Many thanks for your precisions. They are much appreciated.

Considering the denomination issue for "Gondelwaffen", I will choose from now on your "Rüstsatz VI" mode. Thanks for reading the writing and proposing a unit!

Cheers
Marc

unikum 1st October 2012 10:28

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
I´m sorry but not speak eanglish.
Or can sometimes input my photos 109s if no bother.
Milan
Czech republic

Marc-André Haldimann 1st October 2012 13:21

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by unikum (Post 155659)
I´m sorry but not speak eanglish.
Or can sometimes input my photos 109s if no bother.
Milan
Czech republic


27.09.2012:
Vážení Unikum,

Díky moc opět za vaši pomoc. Mnoho z pics si laskavě Post jsou již na Flickr, ale ne všechny. Zjistil jsem, s obrovským potěšením:

- 13./JG 300 Bf 109 G-14 v Reinslehen října 1944.
- Možná JG 300 "Schwarze 14", další z Bf 109 G-14 okolních Ju 290 W.Nr. 110 162 "9V + EK" v Salcburku Maxglan letišti v květnu 1945.
- A jemné Erla G-14 s GI pózuje před.

Opravdu G-14 večer tady v Ženevě. Díky za to, že Unikum, a díky za pomoc, abych rozšířit tuto vizuální encyklopedii pozdě války Messerschmitt Bf 109.
Marc

29.09.2012:
Zde je to, co mohu říci, k vaší poslední příloh:

1. Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. unknown "Schwarze 3 nebo 8", jednotka a umístění neznámé, Německo, podzim 1944. Jsem si jistá, pilot RK lze identifikovat. Kdo ví víc?
2. Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. neznámý, "Weisse 7", 13./JG 5, Sola, léto 1945.
3. Bf 109 G-6/R6 W.Nr. a jednotka neznámá, Mnichov, 5. března 1944. A velmi zajímavé záběr díky titulek jsem četl jen částečně. Kdo může pomoci číst více?
4-5. Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. unknown "Weisse 1", I. a III. / JG 27, Německo, jaro 1945.Případ pro G-10 je vyhrána 56 l nádrže oleje víčkem nádrže, jasně ve vysoké poloze.
6.Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. unknown "Weisse 1", II. / JG 52, Neubieberg, léto 1945.

Děkuji tolik Unikum. Těšíme se na vaše další příspěvky!
Marc

Cheers
Marc

unikum 1st October 2012 17:16

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
OK.Search my archiv photos from internet and Ebayi a upload next .

Marc-André Haldimann 1st October 2012 17:28

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Excellent, thanks!
Marc


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