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Marc-André Haldimann 22nd December 2013 21:33

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by unikum (Post 177127)

Hallo Unikum!

Many thanks for this link. The picture is published in Prien and Stemmer 1996, p. 321; it does show a majority of Erla built Bf 109 G-6's of 6./JG 3, seen at Rotenburg in February 1944.

Cheers
Marc

PS: Norbert, I'm really sorry to hear your Flickr plight. Maybe try it once more using a firefox navigator with preferences set on english? Or take up a yahoo account? Let me know

Marc-André Haldimann 26th December 2013 16:14

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Hi there Gang,

Taking a benefit from my free Christmas time, I'm doing some caption upgrades. And I'm stuck by this pic of "Weisse 3", a late Mtt-Waldwerk Bf 109 K-4 W.Nr. 334xx4.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28092068@N03/5174499734

Notice also the K-4, also from a late production batch, in the back: the W.Nr. last two digits are 08.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28092068@N03/11566140044/

Not the slightest idea where it could have been taken. Any information would be much appreciated!

Cheers
Marc

SMF144 27th December 2013 01:20

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Marc-Andre,

I do believe these images were taken by the same RCAF individual who photographed the D-13, Yellow Ten. I am Kilometres apart from my reference material, and it's bugg'n me that I can't remember the name of the photographer. He was a night fighter pilot on Mossies, either No.409 or 410 Squadron, RCAF. From there you might be able to identify the local as Hildebrandt was protective of his sources to the point it cost him.

Stephen

Marc-André Haldimann 27th December 2013 17:59

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Hi there Stephen!

Many thanks for your lead! The name given as a credit for that pic by Hildebrandt 1989 is Finlayson. There were two Flinlayson:

- F/L Ross Hunter Finlayson, 409 RCAF Sqn.
- F/O C. Finlayson, Navigator, 410 RCAF Sqn.

Trying now to narrow down where those two Squadrons were based in Germany. Will keep you posted.

Cheers
Marc

S Sheflin 27th December 2013 22:46

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Hello everyone,

Crashed Enemy Report (CEA269) indicates that Finlayson’s photo was taken at Fl.Pl. Rheine. Bf109K-4 3+ White is possibly WNr. 33X444. The unmarked Bf109K-4 in the background is either 33X808 or 33X828; both are listed as being at abandoned wingless at Rheine.

My sources are: CEA269, Broken Eagles#3 and A311/RAF.

Steve Sheflin

Marc-André Haldimann 27th December 2013 23:51

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Steve,

You did it once again! A real Christmas gift indeed… Rheine-Hopsten it is. Both machines are probably from the 334 xxx block, given the low-vis Mtt-Bodenwöhr camouflage, as the highest recorded W.Nr. in the 335 xxx block is - to my knowledge - 335 213. I will suggest thus cautiously W.Nr. 334 444 for "Weisse 3" and 334 808 for the background machine.

What other airfields does CEA269 cover?

Many many thanks!
Marc

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Marc-André Haldimann 8th January 2014 16:23

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Hi there Folks, and all the best for 2014!

I just found a very intriguing pic of an Mtt-Regensburg built Bf 109 which I think is a G-14 (note the tall tail wheel strut). I do suppose it belonged to a training unit, given its high "Schwarze 3" tactical number. Wondering if anyone knows the location and the unit?

Thanks in advance!
Marc

ouidjat 8th January 2014 16:29

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Salut Marc,

Schwarze 3 or Schwarze 31 ??
No idea but a Training unit for sure and a G-14 too.
We already found a lot of G-14s in training units with long tail Wheel.

Tschüss from Lausanne! he he he!

Franck.

Marc-André Haldimann 8th January 2014 16:44

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Hi there Gang,

And all my warm wishes for 2014! I just got hold of a very interesting pic showing an engineless Mtt-Regensburg built Bf 109 G-14 (IMHO, not the least because of its long tail wheel strut), depicted in the winter 1944-1945 somewhere in Germany. Because of its high tactical number, I do tend to think that "Schwarze 31" was part of a training unit.

I would be glad to know more about location and unit.

Thanks in advance for your help!
Marc

PS: it's just the third time I retype this post: each time I add the link to my Flickr account, the screen goes blank with a "Service temporarily unavailable" advice...

Marc-André Haldimann 8th January 2014 16:46

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ouidjat (Post 177910)
Salut Marc,

Schwarze 3 or Schwarze 31 ??
No idea but a Training unit for sure and a G-14 too.
We already found a lot of G-14s in training units with long tail Wheel.

Tschüss from Lausanne! he he he!

Franck.

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