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John Manrho 12th October 2005 21:44

Errata on Bodenplatte
 
Within a couple of days I will post here an errata sheet for the Bodenplatte book. By no means this should be considered final, I am convinced there are more errors.....if you find any, let me know!

Regards,

John Manrho.

Sergio Luis dos Santos 13th October 2005 14:23

Re: Errata on Bodenplatte
 
Thanks John.

I really don´t know why most know publishes do not have an errata sector on their web pages. It looks a nice service for buyers, not? It´s interesting Luftfahrt Verlag downloaded French translations also.
I have suggested this to Adler Editora about our Fw58 book, udpates, corrections and translations.

John Manrho 15th October 2005 13:41

Re: Errata on Bodenplatte
 
Hello Sergio,

thanks. I also think Errata sheets should be done more often. We also see Nick Beale doing it on his site. Indeed publishers most of the time have a website, but I think it is up to the authors!

cheers,

John.

cbe2009 15th October 2005 23:33

Re: Errata on Bodenplatte
 
John!
Are You interested in pictures of the pilots as well?
Regards
Christian

John Manrho 16th October 2005 01:31

Re: Errata on Bodenplatte
 
Hello Christian, yes, this concerns pictures too. I believe you acquired picture of Maj. Vowinckel, correct? I have the logobooks and all the pics from Maj. Vowinckel. The originals come from the family. Cheers, John.

Col Ford 16th October 2005 04:22

Re: Errata on Bodenplatte
 
John,

The Officer Commanding No.268 Squadron of No.35(Recce) Wing at Gilze-Rijen on 1 January 1945 was Squadron Leader A.S. Mann DFC, not Squadron Leader C.T.P. Stephenson DFC. S/L Stephenson DFC was slated to take command in late January 1945, but took over command early on 17 January 1945 when S/L Mann DFC was taken ill suddenly with appendicitis. The confusion about who was in command comes about most times because S/L Stephenson DFC signed off the Squadron's ORBs for the month as Officer Commanding - but the Squadron ORBs do record the change of command on the 17th. S/L Mann DFC has provided me his own eye witness account of the day's events which has been used in the Squadron History - ADJIDAUMO.

Regards,

Colin Ford
Canberra
Australia

John Manrho 16th October 2005 11:03

No. 268 Sqn
 
Hello Col,

Thanks for the correction. Will be incorporated in issue 2. Can you also send me the eye witness account by Sqn Ldr Mann? I would be interested to read his story.

Regards,

John Manrho.

Col Ford 21st October 2005 09:39

Re: Errata on Bodenplatte
 
John,

Eyewitness account from Sqdn Ldr AS Mann DFC OC No.268 Sqdn sent to your email address as per our last email contact. If you have not received it please let me know via this forum or email address you should have from last contact with me.

Regards,

Colin Ford
Canberra Australia

John Manrho 21st October 2005 19:42

Re: Errata on Bodenplatte
 
Hello Colin, yes, I got your e-mail and my apologies for replying so late. It is always nice to read more details on Bodenplatte. Thanks, John.

SES 28th October 2005 09:07

Re: Errata on Bodenplatte
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Manrho
Hello Sergio,

thanks. I also think Errata sheets should be done more often. We also see Nick Beale doing it on his site. Indeed publishers most of the time have a website, but I think it is up to the authors!

cheers,

John.

Hi John,
I wholeheartetly agree with you. If we all research until we are 100 % sure, we will never publish anything on a Luftwaffe subject. I "borrowed" Nick's idea on my WEB-site. And went one step further. I made parts of my incomplete database public. And I have had hundreds of responses, corrections and comments. In this way my research have progressed more in the last 2 years than it did over the last 20. And having an Errata page is in my opinion a fair service to my customers. But as you said it is an author and not a publisher issue.
bregds
SES
www.gyges.dk

Nick Beale 28th October 2005 13:05

Re: Errata on Bodenplatte
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Manrho
I also think Errata sheets should be done more often. We also see Nick Beale doing it on his site.

Possibly because I make more mistakes than other authors!

SES 28th October 2005 13:16

Re: Errata on Bodenplatte
 
Hi Nick,
I believe in "good enough within a reasonable time" rather than "perfect in a millenium" and in this line of research it is astounding what kind of new material suddenly surfaces.
bregds
SES
PS Did you have time to look at my Radar-Train in Southern France?

John Manrho 28th October 2005 22:42

Re: Timing
 
Hello SES, I think there is a balance between timing and accuracy for every book. Take Bodenplatte. Several books (Start im M., Battle for the A/F, Prien series) already published a lot about it. So if you decide to make a new one it should be very thorough and therefore time consuming.

The same goes for if you want to write book about a very specific detailed subject, like "KG 40 operations from Bordeaux-Merignac", then you should be very thorough. If you have a more broader subject, say "Air War over France", then it's another matter.

cheers,

John.

mganzer 7th August 2006 00:45

Re: Errata on Bodenplatte
 
I was lucky enough to pick up a copy of the book at the Smithsonian Air & Space museum in Washington DC. Excellent work and thanks for the errata/updates.
Mark

Kurtl12 8th January 2007 21:33

Re: Timing
 
Hello John,

Do you have any information about 8./Schlachtgeschwader 10 in your book "Bodenplatte"? Reason for my interest is because I'm doing some reseach about Oberfähnrich Erwin GUTZMANN who was shot down on April 10th, 1945 at Mechters in Lower Austria. He got the Knight's Cross and had over 600 flights against enemy. There are several stories about what actual happend to him the day he crashed. One is that he was shot down by russian fighters. Others tell that it was the own german flak. He died at the crashplace.
Maybe you have further details about him/his unit. Somebody from this forum told me there is a picture in your book on page 46 about Hans Stollnberger, the Staffelkapitän of 8./SG 10. I do not want to by that book just because of this picture.

Thanks,

Kurtl

John Manrho 8th January 2007 22:33

Re: Errata on Bodenplatte
 
There is no information on 8./SG 10 in my book, only the picture of Hptm. Stollnberger. The information on Ofhr. Gutzmann listed in Obermaier's Ritterkreuzträger is the only info I know.

Regards,

John.

Henk Welting 15th February 2007 11:55

Re: Errata on Bodenplatte
 
attn John Manrho,
I've your book Bodenplatte. Now I tried to print the errata (as mentioned in the SGLO Bulletin # 283/20) but the thread is "closed".
Please advise.
My e-mail-address is in the "Handboek SGLO".
Gegroet,
Henk Welting
Zelhem

Ruy Horta 15th February 2007 19:06

Re: Errata on Bodenplatte
 
Henk,

That was "mijn fout".

A little while ago I cleaned up all attachments older than 180 days, because of some technical issues, unfortunately I didn't realize that this included some of the "mainstay" of our files.

The file has been uploaded from a back up, you'll find it attached to the original post.

Henk Welting 16th February 2007 10:21

Re: Errata on Bodenplatte
 
Thanks Ruy, "everything in the picture". Keep on the good work on this excellent website and let's hope that you don't get same problems as Ross McNeill had recently with his - also excellent - RAF Commands board.
Regards,
Henk.

Nick Beale 12th November 2007 23:17

Re: Errata on Bodenplatte
 
1 Attachment(s)
John, here's another III./JG 54 casualty: Fw 190 D-9 Werk Nummer 210046, gelbe 3, force-landed south of Amsterdam. Pilot, Uffz. Fenzel.

A copy of the deciphered signal is attached (from National Archives HW5/645).

John Manrho 12th November 2007 23:45

Re: Errata on Bodenplatte
 
Nick,

great stuff, many thanks!. Now we need to check who that pilots was. Maybe still alive?

Cheers,

John.


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