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edNorth 9th September 2015 22:13

Interesting on eBay
 
He 111 "T5+EB" or "T9+EB"
www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Frankreich-Flugzeug-Airplane-bei-Reparatur-2-WK-M843-/361374262825?hash=item542395a629

www.ebay.de/itm/P567-Foto-Spanien-Legion-Condor-Flugzeug-Name-Sevilla-25-100-/391234255608?hash=item5b1760faf8
He 111 (Spain) old version "25-100"

http://www.ebay.de/itm/P566-Foto-Spa...item567a56fb30

Modeldad 10th September 2015 15:44

Re: Interesting on eBay
 
Thanks Ed. never saw those before, found more.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/P565-Foto-Spa...3D391234255719

http://www.ebay.de/itm/P571-Foto-Spa...3D391234255541

http://www.ebay.de/itm/P569-Foto-Spa...3D391234255719

http://www.ebay.de/itm/P564-Foto-Spa...3D391234255638

http://www.ebay.de/itm/P568-Foto-Spa...item5b1760fb16

http://www.ebay.de/itm/P572-Foto-Spa...item5b1760fb88

http://www.ebay.de/itm/P573-Foto-Spa...item5b1760fbb0

edNorth 11th September 2015 00:13

Re: Interesting on eBay
 
Thanks,, never seen such on my 40 year aviation (hobby) carreer

jim norton 12th September 2015 11:15

Re: Interesting on eBay
 
hi,
these machines flew for the deutsche botschaft in spanien. but on board were luftwaffe-men in civil clothing. you can guess what they were doing there...
interestingly they had different codes for one and the same machine. the he 111 25-100 was sometimes painted as d-ahoj and as m-cabs. 25-101 even had sometimes a stkz: sg+qw!
i have a fb of a crewmember, who flew until 1943 with these machines (they used ju 52, too).
all the best
jim

Stig Jarlevik 12th September 2015 19:11

Re: Interesting on eBay
 
Jim

Very, very interesting.
When you say Botschaft what exactly do you mean? My dictionary state it is either Embassy or more sinister Intelligence.

My guess is that the three aircraft were delivered with German civil registration to Spain plus perhaps one with STKZ SG+QW (can this be confirmed?). One photograph shows two He 111 with civil register D-AHOJ and D-AFFU(?), but are they really of the early version?

After delivery they were either stripped of paintwork or re-painted as 25-100 to 25-102 and finally incorporated in a special Spanish register M-CAxx. Possibly it was the other way around.

Anyone who has more details?

Cheers
Stig

Nick Beale 12th September 2015 21:44

Re: Interesting on eBay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stig Jarlevik (Post 206513)
Jim

Very, very interesting.
When you say Botschaft what exactly do you mean? My dictionary state it is either Embassy or more sinister Intelligence.

Cheers
Stig

I'd go with embassy (headed by a Botschafter = ambassador).

udf_00 12th September 2015 23:50

Re: Interesting on eBay
 
Diplomats, spies, is there a difference ?

ChrisS 13th September 2015 00:35

Re: Interesting on eBay
 
Thanks edNorth and Modeldad for posting these..... historically amazing images....

Stig Jarlevik 13th September 2015 10:57

Re: Interesting on eBay
 
Thanks Nick

I settle for that translation, but I can't help the feeling that udf actually got a point... :)

Cheers
Stig

jim norton 13th September 2015 12:06

Re: Interesting on eBay
 
hi,

sorry for writing german. the fb is stamped and signed by the embassy, luftattache abt. w. maybe this points to wetterflugstelle, because they often had an eye upon the weather during their flights. and they flew around spain, sometimes to look after ships in the med. the machines were newly painted, when they were flown to germany. and again before their way back. maybe because they used the machines not only in spain!

all the best
jim


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