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Alex Smart 14th January 2018 06:00

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Hurricane 2537.

Kaiyan 14th January 2018 08:50

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just for info old ebay

Snautzer 14th January 2018 12:54

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  1. Li2 nice cammo http://www.ebay.de/itm/P238-Foto-abg...cAAOSwhiZaWiNZ

Snautzer 15th January 2018 11:25

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  1. Captured Hampden https://www.ebay.de/itm/10-Flugzeug-...4AAOSwhcNaXHpa
  2. Captured Hampden https://www.ebay.de/itm/9-Flugzeug-B...UAAOSwITtaXHg7

udf_00 15th January 2018 12:14

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Re #84 : http://aircrewremembered.com/wawn-robert.html

Snautzer 15th January 2018 21:41

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  1. Captured Avia B71 LP+FB https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...wAAOSwSwVaXPgA

Faenor 16th January 2018 08:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaiyan (Post 245748)
just for info old ebay

Hi - thanks for the photo of P2537, but Hurri on photo from exhibition is little bit different:
- double blade propeller Watts
- tricolor on the tail

Faenor

Snautzer 16th January 2018 11:04

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  1. Potez 63-11 nr708 captured https://www.ebay.de/itm/Original-Fot...cAAOSwo4pYfQph

Kaiyan 16th January 2018 17:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Faenor (Post 245876)
Hi - thanks for the photo of P2537, but Hurri on photo from exhibition is little bit different:
- double blade propeller Watts
- tricolor on the tail

Faenor

P2537 was posted in answer to another thread I do have info on he exhibition hurri from my own notes ...

no idea as to real id but it carried Reichlin code 1+4

1+4 Hawker Hurricane Used at E-stelle Rechlin during Jun./Jul.1940.
Hurricane exhibited at Berlin is shown.
The aircraft still wears the Rechlin code 1+4 with the Balken cross overpainted by a British roundel.
Hurricane 1+4 was at Rechlin in June and July 1940 and went later to the DLS collection at Berlin where it
was shown in fake British markings in June 1942

Kaiyan 16th January 2018 17:04

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second pic of 1+4

Snautzer 16th January 2018 21:04

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  1. 483 BG Op Frantic/Frantic Joe Poltava AF Base USSR 1944 https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...ic&_sacat=4727
  2. 410th Bomb Group collection https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...up&_sacat=4727

Faenor 17th January 2018 09:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaiyan (Post 245897)
P2537 was posted in answer to another thread I do have info on he exhibition hurri from my own notes ...

no idea as to real id but it carried Reichlin code 1+4

1+4 Hawker Hurricane Used at E-stelle Rechlin during Jun./Jul.1940.
Hurricane exhibited at Berlin is shown.
The aircraft still wears the Rechlin code 1+4 with the Balken cross overpainted by a British roundel.
Hurricane 1+4 was at Rechlin in June and July 1940 and went later to the DLS collection at Berlin where it
was shown in fake British markings in June 1942

Thanks Kaiyan :-)

Faenor

Snautzer 17th January 2018 21:03

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  1. Captured Hurricane strange cammo Africa https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Afrika-...gAAOSwQiFaX0n0
  2. Hurricane wreck France https://www.ebay.de/itm/D750-Foto-We...cAAOSwMEtaXfaS
  3. Captured NAA 64 https://www.ebay.de/itm/267-Foto-FRA...YAAOSwm~daX55~

Snautzer 19th January 2018 21:51

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  1. Captured Wellington code visible https://www.ebay.de/itm/TOP-Frankrei...AAAOSwRE5aYGeB
  2. Captured Wellington 25-09-40 https://www.ebay.de/itm/TOP-Frankrei...sAAOSw7p5aYGUE
  3. Captured Wellington https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Flugzeu...sAAOSwUH5aYOe7

Kaiyan 20th January 2018 08:58

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the Wellingtons appear to show two different aircraft the first 2 should be
KX-E L7788 became KX+E maybe mk1a

the last shows KX-T L7842 became KX+T also Mk.1a

Snautzer 20th January 2018 21:34

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Bostn crash Lille https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-abgesch...gAAOSwuwhZ6NbG

Faenor 21st January 2018 06:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Snautzer (Post 246206)

Photo of same plane

FAenor

Bertrand H 21st January 2018 08:00

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Hi

Read

n°88 sqdn, RH-F, Z2231, 19/7/1942

Bertrand

Snautzer 23rd January 2018 12:03

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  1. Mig3 captured interesting text on fuselage https://www.ebay.de/itm/6667a-ORIG-F...IAAOSwyi9aTnOJ

Snautzer 25th January 2018 12:42

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  1. Dragon DH 89 Condor legion https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Militar...wAAOSwWktaXw16
  2. RWD-13 (Poland) Condor legion https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Militar...MAAOSwMGVaXw9D

Snautzer 30th January 2018 11:03

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  1. Fairey Battle P-?? 103sq https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Wr...sAAOSwIk9ab3al

Snautzer 30th January 2018 21:39

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  1. Wellington PP-D (?) DV439 crash Holland serial visible https://www.ebay.de/itm/A567-Foto-We...MAAOSwXOVabyct
  2. Wellington PP-D (?) DV439 crash Holland serial visible https://www.ebay.de/itm/A572-Foto-We...UAAOSwFnxabyb6
  3. Wellington N3706 (?) https://www.ebay.de/itm/A565-Foto-We...0AAOSwGBhabybt
  4. Blenheim RT-M https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-notgela...wAAOSw8H1aaKKB
  5. Captured crew https://www.ebay.de/itm/A557-Foto-We...0AAOSw8R9abycQ
  6. Blenheim B-YH N35?? https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Be...EAAOSwhilacL6U
  7. Sterling Holland https://www.ebay.de/itm/A569-Foto-We...0AAOSwtKVabyb0
  8. Sterling Holland https://www.ebay.de/itm/A566-Foto-We...gAAOSwkvdabybu
  9. Sterling Holland https://www.ebay.de/itm/A568-Foto-We...cAAOSwdd9abyb-

Kaiyan 31st January 2018 11:27

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Wellington N3706 IS ACTUALLY STERLING N3705 TAIL

Snautzer 31st January 2018 11:59

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No need to use caps letters Kaiyan.
  1. Fokker Soesterberg https://www.ebay.de/itm/A550-Foto-We...UAAOSwkh9abybO

Kaiyan 31st January 2018 12:52

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No offence meant dodgy keyboard and big fingers...

Snautzer 1st February 2018 12:16

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  1. Hurricane, Africa https://www.ebay.de/itm/foto-luftwaf...MAAOSwaEhZD1s2

Snautzer 1st February 2018 21:39

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  1. Unknown yo me (looks Soviet like IL6 with ACh-30B diesel engines) https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Be...UAAOSwY7tac0uN
  2. Hurricane Belgium (?) https://www.ebay.de/itm/A214-Foto-We...MAAOSwgLlacu1J

Stig Jarlevik 1st February 2018 22:02

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[quote=Snautzer;246882][list=1][*]Unknown yo me (looks Soviet like IL6 with ACh-30B diesel engines) https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Be...UAAOSwY7tac0uN
/QUOTE]

To me this looks very much like the Centre NC-150 and one of the prototypes, probably 01.
It is stated No 01 was taken by the Germans intact, and if my identity is correct, we seem to have photo evidence as well.
Well, e-bay never cease to surprise you... :)
Cheers
Stig

Snautzer 1st February 2018 22:14

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  1. Good spot ! I think...

  1. Belgium Fox https://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...sAAOSwLnlacxa3
  2. Belgium Fox https://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEUG-Franz-Englische-Hollandische-DOPPELDECKER-Aufklarer/372210743939?hash=item56a97d3a83:g:14IAAOSwJRZacxb o https://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...IAAOSwJRZacxbo

Faenor 4th February 2018 07:56

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Hi,

I=m searching more info about these machines:

Spitfire 19.SQ
https://www.ebay.de/itm/x40-Holland-...YAAOSwoddabda7

Spitfire 222.SQ
https://www.ebay.de/itm/2-Fotos-notg...QAAOSwR8habMLK

Belgian Fairey BAttle?
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Wehrmac...4AAOSwtBdadfeF

Thanks Faenor

Kaiyan 4th February 2018 14:34

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Hi, I believe the Battle to be a BELGIUM machine coded T.60
regards

Faenor 4th February 2018 18:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Faenor (Post 246983)
Hi,

I=m searching more info about these machines:

Spitfire 222.SQ
https://www.ebay.de/itm/2-Fotos-notg...QAAOSwR8habMLK


Thanks Faenor

....probably Spitfire P9339 ZD-J of Sgt. L.J.White - loss on morning 1.6.1940 near Koksijde in combat with Bf 110 of I./ZG 1 and Bf 109 of I./JG 26

Faenor

Snautzer 4th February 2018 21:55

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  1. Spitfire Q?-X Named West Godwari beach Oostvoorne https://www.ebay.de/itm/r40-Holland-...wAAOSw38BadxEK

SteveB 4th February 2018 23:08

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The Air Britain book "Gifts of War" records "West Godavari" as a presentation name to be applied to an aircraft of 234 (Madras Presidency) Sqn using codes 'AZ' but the serial is unknown. It would seem most likely that the code letters are either 'QV' for 19 Sqn or, depending on the date of the incident, 'QJ' of 616Sqn.

I notice that the canopy appears to have the large bulge on the side used on aircraft carrying out "Jim Crow" patrols.

Steve

Stig Jarlevik 5th February 2018 00:59

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Steve

Photo here https://www.ebay.de/itm/x40-Holland-...YAAOSwoddabda7 clearly shows the code is QV, that is 19 Sq and not QJ.

Faenor

Photo here https://www.ebay.de/itm/r40-Holland-....c100013.m1986 give us an ID P8439

According to Jim Halley P8439 was initially used by 234Sq (which fits what Gifts of War says). Then Halley says it went to 91Sq, but since Frank states P8439 was lost with 19Sq on 28.8.1941 (date fits with what the photo says), I think there is a misprint in Halley's (Air Britain's) booklet and 91Sq is in fact 19Sq.

Without being 100% sure of course, I would say we are looking at P8439 QV-X shot down by AA-fire 28.8.1941 and which landed on a Dutch Beach.

Cheers
Stig

Faenor 5th February 2018 11:36

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Thanks to all who share information.Have a nice day Faenor

SteveB 5th February 2018 15:19

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"Spitfire - the History" Morgan and Shacklady also records 234 and 91Sqn for P8439 no mention of 19Sqn. "Fighter Command Losses" records that P8439 was allotted to 19Sqn when it was lost. The photo in the first ebay link in Stig's post shows more clearly that the aircraft is definitely a "long range" Spitfire with the fixed overload tank under the port wing.
I am not an expert in these matters but personally I think the 91Sqn remains a possibility 91Sqn was formed from 421Flt which was established for Jim Crow work. Needs someone to check ORBs.
Steve

Stig Jarlevik 5th February 2018 20:53

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Steve

The photo also very clearly shows a 19Sq code. 91Sq never used QV.

Cheers
Stig

SteveB 5th February 2018 21:13

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Stig

There is a published history of 19Sqn "Fighter Squadron" by Derek Palmer. This records that 234Sqn handed over their long range Spitfires to 19Sqn on 21 August 1941 just a week before this incident so it does seem that the record showing 91Sqn is incorrect.

Steve

Snautzer 5th February 2018 21:32

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  1. Bloch MB152 Balkenkreuz 2./ErgJGr 26 Cognac 1941 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf....c100005.m1851
  2. Bloch MB200 Balkenkreuz https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf....c100005.m1851


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