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Hello everyone,
I am perplexed by He 111 H-16, WNr. 8209.
If our LEMB Stammkennzeichen list is correct, its code was probably NN+BV and not the TS+WE or F as shown. Could these aberrant markings be another example of a Technische Schule marking like the Bf 109s marked TS+MB at Schleißheim?
Respectfully,
Steve Sheflin

Marc-André Haldimann

12th May 2018 22:22

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Post 1082: an interesting question there, Steve; thanks for opening that possibility

Cheers
Marc

Marc-André Haldimann

12th May 2018 22:25

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Ju 88 G-6 W.Nr. 621 892
http://www.ww2online.org/image/ameri...1944-or-1945-1

Fw 190 F-8 W.Nr. 588 318 "Weisse 40"
http://www.ww2online.org/image/ameri...e-1944-or-1945

Both planes are in the same location, given the window pattern of the hangar in the background. Any idea about the location ?

Cheers
Marc

edNorth

12th May 2018 22:59

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Originally Posted by Kaiyan (Post 251880)

Hi, The reason I posted about the 290 (dot or no dot) is because that in every pic i have or have seen of +AH the rudders are all attached, in the film clip it is not, OK it may have been damaged whilst being moved around, also the J of the J4+ part of the code is clearly visible against the light colour band. here it is not visible I though that maybe this is a second aircraft as I do not have a complete list of all 290's lost in North Africa.

Actually two Ju 290 A-1 (never dot, dude) ended up in or near airfields in Afrika. Some of your other seen pictures can be of either. And J4+AH was indeed attacked by USAAF Kittyhawks and claimed destroyed by catching fire. But it was simply scrapped, and had tail detached. Pictures show that process. US soldiiers standing on its floor, first I thougt is was a cargo ship, it was so huge. But nose was burned off, after crash. Other had Stkz. SB+QB and was set on fire. Pictures of it were seen here (in this thread) recently.

edNorth

12th May 2018 23:07

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Originally Posted by S Sheflin (Post 251907)

Steve, do not let this old site bring you down. Generally speaking (not commenting on this case). Lots and lots of errors. Even the errors are sometimes wrong (plus many references are wrongly attributed). Many of these Stkz. come from logbooks, and as many know, they are known for contain writing errors besides bad hand-writing (sutterlin etc. etc.) and bad copying or copys of copys make matters worse. Even bad photos are qouted. Yes, Now I have said this.

gogh	12th May 2018 23:16

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Originally Posted by S Sheflin (Post 251907)

On TS+WE is the WNr. wrong painted

S Sheflin

12th May 2018 23:31

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Hello Marc,
Post #1084 – Unless I am mistaken, both of these photos were taken at Fl.Horst Weimar-Nohra (50.976389 11.246667).
Respectfully,
Steve Sheflin

S Sheflin

12th May 2018 23:56

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Hello again Marc,
Post #1084 again – Arado-Warnemunde-built Fw 190 F-8, 40+ white, is WNr. 588318.
Respectfully,
Steve Sheflin

Marc-André Haldimann

13th May 2018 09:01

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Originally Posted by S Sheflin (Post 251916)

Hello Marc,
Post #1084 – Unless I am mistaken, both of these photos were taken at Fl.Horst Weimar-Nohra (50.976389 11.246667).
Respectfully,
Steve Sheflin

Many many thanks, Steve, for the location; this issue was nagging me as I had already seen the FW 190, without knowing where....

Sincerely
Marc

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