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Marc-André Haldimann 18th January 2019 20:17

Location of Re 2002 "DV+JC" ?
 
Hi there Gang,

I stumbled on this Re 2002 photo depicting "DV+CJ".
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WW...UAAOSwEqVcPjQ3

Any insights about location and unit ?

Thanks in advance
Marc

Roger Gaemperle 18th January 2019 21:31

Re: Location of Re 2002 "DV+JC" ?
 
Hi Marc,

The other photos were taken at Reims/Champagne. The US intelligence report for Reims does not mention any Re 2002, only a "French Trainer - Was used by the Germans". But the Do 217, Me 410, Fw 190 are mentioned.

Cheers,
Roger

Nick Beale 18th January 2019 23:41

Re: Location of Re 2002 "DV+JC" ?
 
I noticed that it had "FOLKE WOLF, LEON" written on it but it's neither a Focke-Wulf, nor one of the three machines found at Lyon-Bron. There is a Werk Nummer (or an Italian Matricola Militare) in white on the fuselage near the tail but I couldn't make it out.

It looks like a Geschwader Bongart machine but not one I've come across, and the unit used so many bases it would be hard to narrow down.

Tom Willis 19th January 2019 12:17

Re: Location of Re 2002 "DV+JC" ?
 
Hi Nick

The name Leon refers to Leon Walker Jnr of the 734th Field Artillery Battalion. The style/markings are all consistent with late production Re2002s. As the location is Reims it could be a Geschwader Bongart assigned aircraft but cannot say for certain as the Flg.Ziel Geschwader also used this type in large numbers. The MM number is 1283. Hope this helps - Tom

Nick Beale 19th January 2019 13:23

Re: Location of Re 2002 "DV+JC" ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Willis (Post 263932)
Hi Nick

The name Leon refers to Leon Walker Jnr of the 734th Field Artillery Battalion. The style/markings are all consistent with late production Re2002s. As the location is Reims it could be a Geschwader Bongart assigned aircraft but cannot say for certain as the Flg.Ziel Geschwader also used this type in large numbers. The MM number is 1283. Hope this helps - Tom

Hi Tom,

Thanks for the explanation — I just took "Leon" for more dodgy spelling! It certainly appears to have all the Bongart characteristics give or take a fuselage tactical number (which they often had alongside the four-letter code). Thanks also for the MM — 1281 and 1282 served with Bongart incidentally.

Stig Jarlevik 19th January 2019 14:23

Re: Location of Re 2002 "DV+JC" ?
 
Hi All

The numbers 1281, 1282 and 1283 listed above are not MM numbers.

201 Re 2002 were ordered
prototype MM458
1st production MM7309 - MM7408
2nd production MM8644 - MM8743

While under production only MM8644-MM8668, MM8670-MM8704, MM8706-MM8707, MM8718-MM8719 are known to have been delivered to Italy, while the other 35 under production and supposedly delivered to Luftwaffe received these odd numbers, possibly Reggiane c/ns. I have not really tried to check if it fits at all. They are all listed in German loss records as WNr (I think??)

Known numbers are
1110, 1117, 1119, 1120, 1150, 1156, 1176, 1178, 1183, 1209, 1213, 1220, 1222, 1223, 1225, 1230, 1231, 1238, 1248, 1240, 1249, 1250, 1251, 1252, 1254, 1255, 1256, 1260, 1262, 1264, 1265, 1267, 1274, 1281, 1282, 1283, 1284, 1285, 1293
making 39 in all but having a span of 184 numbers. As far as I know there is no complete c/n list regarding Reggiane production.

I have two photos where the number can be read
1) (white 7). and at least to me, it says WkN 1119 and
2) very clearly, WKN 1222.
I expect that "MM1281 - 1283" also carried the words WkN or WKN in front of their digits and not MM.

Cheers
Stig

Tony Jones 19th January 2019 15:35

Re: Location of Re 2002 "DV+JC" ?
 
Hi
I agree with Stig on the number being the c/n

A doc found at the PRO says c/n 1252 found at Valance 1944

Tony

Nick Beale 19th January 2019 15:40

Re: Location of Re 2002 "DV+JC" ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Jones (Post 263936)
Hi
I agree with Stig on the number being the c/n

A doc found at the PRO says c/n 1252 found at Valance 1944

Tony

http://www.ghostbombers.com/Bongart/GB_28.html

hangar300 19th January 2019 19:35

Re: Location of Re 2002 "DV+JC" ?
 
Article in French and photo DV+??, W.Nr 1256 https://www.lepopulaire.fr/limoges/a...1.html#refresh
Kris

Stig Jarlevik 19th January 2019 19:42

Re: Location of Re 2002 "DV+JC" ?
 
Thanks Nick/Chris

I should have stated that the first 100 Re 2002 were of course all delivered, but I was too focused on the 2nd production batch

Cheers
Stig


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