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Brian 22nd October 2013 18:20

Collisions with balloons at Crewe 20/3/43
 
Hi guys

I've read that on 20 March 1943, a Wellington from Litchfield and an Oxford from Cranwell both collided with barrage balloons at Crewe; all crews/passengers killed (12 in total).

Has anyone further details - I assume the weather was bad in that area at the time.

Cheers
Brian

Larry 22nd October 2013 23:48

Re: Collisions with balloons at Crewe 20/3/43
 
Brian,

Wellington Mk III was X3547 from 27 OTU based at Litchfield. 8 crew members killed. Crashed at 15.20 hrs.

Details are in Bomber Command Losses Vol 7 covering OTUs. Do you need crew names?

As for the Oxford this was DF477 of RAFC but I have no details of the crew; presumably a crew of 4. Details from the Oxford File by ABH

Larry 30th October 2013 19:05

Re: Collisions with balloons at Crewe 20/3/43
 
Excluding those killed abroad and two WAAFs who died on 20-3-43 this leaves the following Air Force personnel, who may include 12 aircrew involved;

FORBES, WILLIAM DENNIS KEITH Flight Sergeant 401498 20/03/1943 23 Royal Australian Air Force Australian Sec. G. Grave 14. BYLEY (ST. JOHN) CHURCHYARD CHESHIRE

WHEELER, ALBERT EDWARD Flying Officer 50363 20/03/1943 32 Royal Air Force United Kingdom BIRKENHEAD (LANDICAN) CREMATORIUM

WATSON, LEONARD DAVID Flight Sergeant 402813 20/03/1943 24 Royal Australian Air Force Australian Sec. E. Grave 14. BYLEY (ST. JOHN) CHURCHYARD CHESHIRE

THOMPSON, RAYMOND HENRY Flying Officer 119076 20/03/1943 23 Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve United Kingdom Plot A.A. Grave 294. SPALDING CEMETERY

WEBB, LAWRENCE EDWARD VICTOR Sergeant 1381435 20/03/1943 23 Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve United Kingdom R.A.F. Sec. Grave 28. BRANDESBURTON (ST. MARY) CHURCHYARD

CONWAY, FRANK RONALD Sergeant 1218971 20/03/1943 22 Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve United Kingdom Sec. C. Grave 3108. ECCLESALL (ALL SAINTS) CHURCHYARD

LONG, FRED WILLIAM Corporal 917192 20/03/1943 43 Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve United Kingdom HANDBOROUGH (OR HANBOROUGH) (CHRIST CHURCH) CHURCHYARD

HOLLEY, HENRY THOMAS Sergeant 911325 20/03/1943 Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve United Kingdom Plot 10. Sec. B. Grave 1. MORTLAKE CEMETERY

DOTZENROTH, HUGO HENRY Sergeant R/129634 20/03/1943 22 Royal Canadian Air Force Canadian Sec. B. Grave 175. KITCHENER (ST. PETER'S) LUTHERAN CEMETERY

GORDON, COLIN ALEXANDER JAMES Flight Sergeant R/105170 20/03/1943 22 Royal Canadian Air Force Canadian Sec. R. Grave 27. SILLOTH (CAUSEWAYHEAD) CEMETERY, HOLME LOW

DRINNAN, VICTOR Aircraftman 1st Class 1129773 20/03/1943 22 Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve United Kingdom Plot G. Square 2. Grave 1145. RADCLIFFE CEMETERY

WAYMAN, MICHAEL MYERS Flight Lieutenant 89359 20/03/1943 Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve United Kingdom Ward 7. Sec. B.B. Grave 1716. SUNDERLAND (RYHOPE ROAD) CEMETERY

CLARK, HAROLD Flight Sergeant 1023954 20/03/1943 28 Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve United Kingdom Sec. A. Grave 3290. SWINTON CEMETERY

COPPINS, LEONARD JOHN Flight Sergeant 628893 20/03/1943 22 Royal Air Force United Kingdom Sec. North. Class C. Grave 2100. HUCKNALL CEMETERY

WILLIAMS, DOUGLAS Sergeant 1316166 20/03/1943 21 Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve United Kingdom Plot 2. Row 9. Grave 8. CADOXTON-JUXTA-NEATH (SS. CATTWG AND ILLTYD) CHURCHYARD

JENKINS, TERENCE Sergeant 1314715 20/03/1943 22 Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve United Kingdom Block B. Grave 159. MAESTEG CEMETERY

HUGHES, FRANK EDWARD Leading Aircraftman 1394561 20/03/1943 21 Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve United Kingdom Plot C. Block 8. Grave 4818. DEAL CEMETERY

HILLS, LESLIE FREDERICK Sergeant 997003 20/03/1943 25 Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve United Kingdom Sec. A.C. Grave 994. NEW SOUTHGATE CEMETERY

CLEAR, GORDON SAMPSON Flying Officer 116769 20/03/1943 31 Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve United Kingdom By N.E. Buttress. LEVERSTOCK GREEN (HOLY TRINITY) CHURCHYARD, HEMEL HEMPSTEAD

WILLIAMS, WILLIAM ERNEST Pilot Officer 144449 20/03/1943 Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve United Kingdom Sec. D. Grave 2. LLANDUDNO (GREAT ORME'S HEAD) CEMETERY

RIDEOUT, HARRY ALFRED Sergeant 798620 20/03/1943 Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve United Kingdom R.A.F. Sec. Grave 29. BRANDESBURTON (ST. MARY) CHURCHYARD

MORRIS, WILLIAM CORFIELD Flying Officer 120570 20/03/1943 32 Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve United Kingdom Sec. C. Grave 10. THORNTON GARDEN OF REST

STONEHAM, JOHN GORDON Leading Aircraftman 1396881 20/03/1943 25 Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve United Kingdom Sec. A. Grave 262. ELTHAM CEMETERY, WOOLWICH

ROUSE, JOHN ERNEST Sergeant 1318732 20/03/1943 21 Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve United Kingdom Block 14. Grave 650. STREATHAM CEMETERY

HAZARD, IVAN HENRY Sergeant 1313768 20/03/1943 22 Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve United Kingdom Sec. E.3. Grave 152. WOLVERCOTE CEMETERY

rafcommands 30th October 2013 19:12

Re: Collisions with balloons at Crewe 20/3/43
 
The Oxford was one covered by the late Henk Welting.

http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...rmen-20-3-1943

Some death details of others on the long list in this thread also.

Regards
Ross

Brian 4th November 2013 19:58

Re: Collisions with balloons at Crewe 20/3/43
 
Thanks guys

Excellent information - much appreciated

Cheers
Brian

Col Bruggy 5th November 2013 00:37

Re: Collisions with balloons at Crewe 20/3/43
 
Brian,

l think it should be pointed out, that the (screened) pilot of No.27 OTU Wellington III X3547, AUS402813 F/Sgt Leonard David WATSON RAAF, also lost two brothers in RAAF service, namely:

AUS420328 F/O (Pilot) Maxwell Thomas Lockwood WATSON RAAF, 22/23-9-1943 No.460 Sqn RAAF, Lancaster III JA859 (on his 1st op.).

and...

AUS420314 P/O (Pilot) Malcolm Douglas WATSON RAAF,
18/19-3-1944 No.466 Sqn RAAF, Halifax III LV827.

Col.

Brian 5th November 2013 23:11

Re: Collisions with balloons at Crewe 20/3/43
 
Hi guys

I would appreciate a list of those who were aboard the Wellington.

Cheers
Brian

Stig Jarlevik 6th November 2013 00:02

Re: Collisions with balloons at Crewe 20/3/43
 
Brian

According to Bomber Command losses Vol 7 by Chorley the following were lost
F/S L D Watson RAAF
Sgt D Williams
F/S W D K Forbes RAAF
Sgt J E Rouse
Sgt F R Conway
F/S L G Coppins
Sgt H T Holley
Sgt L F Hills

All the best
Stig


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