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edwest2 22nd February 2021 18:13

38 Luftsiege. Die Abschußprotokolle des Ritterkreuzträgers Oberleutnant Hans Dortenmann in Originaldokumenten.
 
Expected sometime in March.

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usual disclaimer,
Ed

leonventer 22nd February 2021 23:38

Re: 38 Luftsiege. Die Abschußprotokolle des Ritterkreuzträgers Oberleutnant Hans Dortenmann in Originaldokumenten.
 
Hi Ed,
Quote:

Originally Posted by edwest2 (Post 302656)
Expected sometime in March.

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usual disclaimer,
Ed

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Leon Venter

edwest2 23rd February 2021 17:06

Re: 38 Luftsiege. Die Abschußprotokolle des Ritterkreuzträgers Oberleutnant Hans Dortenmann in Originaldokumenten.
 
Hi Leon,

Thank you.

Best,
Ed

Rudi Penker 12th March 2021 10:36

38 Luftsiege - Die Abschussprotokolle des Ritterkreuzträgers Hans Dortenmann in Originaldokumente
 
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Nick Hector 14th March 2021 09:44

Re: 38 Luftsiege. Die Abschußprotokolle des Ritterkreuzträgers Oberleutnant Hans Dortenmann in Originaldokumenten.
 
Hans Dortenmann’s known opponents

1 6.2.44/1528 La-5 PQ 06444 @ 200m Believe this was against 254 IAP, 269 IAD, 14 VA. Lt. Nazimov only damaged (engine stopped in mid-air at one stage), made it back home. Other sources say 40 IAP, Kapt. Ivan M. Astakov KIA in Taran

3 26.2.44/1225 IL-2 Sturmovik PQ 60732 @ 500m Was this claimed against 7 GShAP KBF, 1410-1415 Russian Time?

4…26.2.44/1552 IL-2 Sturmovik 18km E of Wesenburg @ 20m 35 ShAP KBF. 5 losses (versus 4 claims)

12 and 13…LaGGs on 4.4.44 Day's Fighter losses include Mikhail Machabeli of 10 GIAP-KBF, POW whilst Aleksandr Gerasimovich Baturin was WIA but made it home

16 24.6.44/0715 Mustang III Evreux (PQ UC 8) @ 1800m 65 sqn, four losses: P-51B-5 43-6464/FZ123 F/S W A Summer KIA. P-51B-1-NA 43-12239/FX944/D of F/L B P W Clapin, FX988 of F/S E T Williams and FZ109 of Sgt. D C Webb all of whom evaded capture (versus 6 claims)

17 4.7.44/1952 Spitfire IX Isigny/N of St. Lo (PQ 15 West S/TS-9) @ 2000m 602 "city of Glasgow" sqn, two losses: ML252 of F/O J W Kelly and MH709(?) of F/S L H Challice. Both pilots KIA (versus 4 claims)

18 18.7.44/0930 P-38 Lightning Dreux/Ivry-La-Bataille (PQ AC-6) @ 3000m 474th FG. Overclaiming, only 3 losses: P-38J-10-LOs 42-67518/7Y- of 429th FS, 2/Lt. Glenn W Goodrich (may not have been a fighter victim) and 42-67671/K6- of 2/Lt. Clarence R Harless Jr evaded capture plus P-38J-15-LO 43-28727/F5- of 428th FS, 2/Lt. George H Holland Jr evaded capture (versus at least 9 claims)

19 25.7.44/2012 Spitfire IX L'Aigle/Conches (PQ AB-3) @ 2000m 135 WG. Overclaiming, no attributable losses.

20 26.7.44/1453 P-38J Lightning Mortagne-au-Perche, E of Alencon/St Anne (PQ 04 Ost N/BB-5) @ 3000m 393rd FS, 367th FG. Overclaiming, only two losses: P-38J-15-LO 42-104187/8L- of Capt. Raymond R Ray evaded capture and P-38J-25-LO 44-23681/8L- of 1/Lt. Burnus W Hayden KIA (versus 5 claims)

21 2.11.44/1230 B-17G-65-BO Flying Fortress Engelbertswald, SE of Lingen (PQ FQ-1) @ 5000m 43-37531 "Quien Sabe?" of 708th BS, 447th BG. 4 KIA, 5 POW (attributed to Flak)

22 6.11.44/1104 P-51D-10-NA Mustang Epe, 3km NW of Braamsche (PQ GR-1) @ 200m
44-14229/QP-N of 334th FS, 4th FG. 1/Lt Earl C Walsh, baled out and POW

23 7.11.44/1530 Tempest V 7.11.44/1530 EJ632 of 274 sqn. F/S R C Cole POW

24 29.12.44/1250 Spitfire Muenster-Handorf area (PQ GS-JQ) 401 sqn RCAF.Overclaiming, only one loss: MK300 of F/L E B "Paddy" Sheehy KIA (versus 3 claims)

25 and 26. 13.2.45/1656 and 1700 2 x P-47 Thunderbolts Nassau sector One of these was P-47D-6-RE Thunderbolt 42-74657/3T- of 22nd FS, 36th FG. David Irving Swope POW

27 21.2.45/1730 P-51B-1-NA or C-1-NT Mustang III Metelen area, SW of Rheine 315 sqn, 2 losses: P-51C-1-NT 42-103119/FB225 of F/S J Donocik KIA and P-51B-1-NA 43-12234/FX939 of Sgt. T P Kostuch, POW (the other victory was claimed by Guenther Rey or Willi Heilmann)

28 22.2.45/1400 P-51D-10-NA Mustang Farwick, NW of Quackenbrueck 44-14747/N2-Y "Rough Rider" of 383rd FS, 364th FG. 1/Lt Frederic Ross, baled out WIA-POW

29 19.3.45/1336 P-51D-15-NA Mustang SW of Haseluenne/Rheine-Lingen Possibly 44-15675/WZ-W of 84th FS Lt. Thomas N Reeves Jnr as he was believed to have been lost at the same time as Downing

30 19.3.45/1337 P-51D-20-NA Mustang Rheine-Lingen Said to be 44-72407/WZ-E of 84th FS, 78th FG, Maj. Harry L Downing, baled out, POW or evaded

31 28.3.45/1135 Tempest V 5km SW of Muenster 56 sqn. Overclaiming, only one loss: NV973/B of Sgt. S A Shepherd KIA (also claimed by Prager and Hein)

32 31.3.45/1446 L-4 Grasshopper (claimed as an "Auster") Drenstein (PQ JQ-8)/Ludwighausen/Ahlen, SW of Muenster 44-80116/49-W of 2nd Armd Div. Lt Emerick, pilot, and Capt Mahon, observer both crashlanded safely.

33 and 34 12.4.45/1253 and 1254 2 x Tempest V 15km N of Uelzen 33 sqn, two lost immediately and a third written off upon return to base: NV783 of F/S P C Walton baled out and evaded, NV919 of Sgt. J Staines KIA. SN180/V of Capt. E D Thompson SAAF, damaged beyond repair. (Versus 6 claims)

35 17.4.45/1134 Tempest V SW of Luebeck 80 sqn. Overclaiming, only one loss: NV991 of F/O L A Smith DFC or DFM KIA (also claimed by Boecker and Soeffing)

36 21.4.45/1519 Spitfire Buchholz (S of Harburg) Overclaiming, no traceable losses (Versus 3 claims)


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