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RSwank 28th July 2016 22:59

Re: P-38 crash in Drvar, Bosnia, in September 1944.
 
8 I think can be ruled out as the last seen location was in Northern Italy at 13:25.

So at this point we still have: (if I am checking correctly) 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 20

vathra 28th July 2016 23:14

Re: P-38 crash in Drvar, Bosnia, in September 1944.
 
9. 1945-01-20 2LT COOK, GLENN A (O-770185) 48 FS/14 FG >> MACR 11389: P-38J 44-24638 lost over Adriatic Sea on 20 Jan 1945
10. 1945-02-17 1LT GRAHAM, CARL G (O-769804) 97 FS/82 FG >> no MACR found, listed as missing in Adriatic Sea
11. 1945-03-10 2LT SINCLAIR, HERSCHEL T (O-773836) 49 FS/14 FG >> MACR 13005: P-38J 43-28547 seen to crash in Adriatic Sea on 10 Mar 1945
13. 1945-04-08 1LT ZIMMERMANN, RICHARD (O-684597) 48 FS/14 FG >> no MACR found, listed as missing in Adriatic Sea
14. 1945-04-22 1LT ANDERSON, ERNEST L (O-767063) 95 FS/82 FG >> no MACR found, listed as missing in Mediterranean Sea
15. 1945-08-17 1LT TOWNSEND, CHARLES C (O-746225) 37 FS/14 FG >> no MACR found, listed as missing in Adriatic Sea
16. 1945-08-20 1LT STRADER, LEROY C (O-753754) 37 FS/14 FG >> MACR 8341: P-38J 43-28336 missing on transfer from UK to Italy on 19 Aug 1944
20. 1946-04-01 1LT GILLEN, R G (O-756537) 94 FS/1 FG >> MACR 13479: P-38L 44-24654 lost over Austria on 31 Mar 1945

RSwank 28th July 2016 23:17

Re: P-38 crash in Drvar, Bosnia, in September 1944.
 
I am not sure why Vathra ruled out 17 Lindberg.

Also on 8 I think it can be ruled out as two witnesses in the MACR claim they could see the crash site about 2000 to 3000 feet offshore.

So at this point we have 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17?? , 20

vathra 28th July 2016 23:19

Re: P-38 crash in Drvar, Bosnia, in September 1944.
 
17. I checked his MACR, no serials match.
BTW, Rswank didn't we discuss the case of Donald Lindberg some time ago?
We (or someone else) concluded it matches other case. I informed DPAA about it, and it seems they will do DNA analysis.

And simply based on dates, I think only 15 and 16 could fit given period.

RSwank 28th July 2016 23:29

Re: P-38 crash in Drvar, Bosnia, in September 1944.
 
Vathra, the serials number are not going to match if we think it possible an error was made in the MACR. None of the 20 on the list will have matching serial numbers.

Number 10, Graham was apparently lost on 2/17/1945.

vathra 28th July 2016 23:41

Re: P-38 crash in Drvar, Bosnia, in September 1944.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RSwank (Post 221327)
Vathra, the serials number are not going to match if we think it possible an error was made in the MACR. None of the 20 on the list will have matching serial numbers.

Number 10, Graham was apparently lost on 2/17/1945.

Sorry we misunderstood.
I have checked again 7, 12 and 19.
They are seen to crashed on another place.

Boris Ciglic 28th July 2016 23:42

Re: P-38 crash in Drvar, Bosnia, in September 1944.
 
5th PRG F-5s were regularly flying over Yugo as well, maybe one of them?

kaki3152 28th July 2016 23:46

Re: P-38 crash in Drvar, Bosnia, in September 1944.
 
F-5s were not armed

vathra 28th July 2016 23:51

Re: P-38 crash in Drvar, Bosnia, in September 1944.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boris Ciglic (Post 221329)
5th PRG F-5s were regularly flying over Yugo as well, maybe one of them?

I have one of their MACRs and there were no MGs installed.

RSwank 29th July 2016 00:22

Re: P-38 crash in Drvar, Bosnia, in September 1944.
 
The MACR number for number 9 , Glenn A Cook is actually 11834.
He was lost 20 Jan 1945. He was last seen over the Adriatic at 44 30 N, 13 20E.

Cook turned back on a misson over Yugoslavia and was being led home by a Lt Archer. Archer was not sure why Cook turned back.
Cook was flying in trail of Archer and they climb to get over cloud bank. When Archer checks behind him Cook is gone. The date may be outside our range but perhaps he just goes to the bottom of our list of possiblilites.


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