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Eric Larger 11th April 2005 09:04

Ju188 lost in France
 
Hello,

On June 9th 1944 , a Ju188 E or D crashed in Graignes sector Normandy France . Some wrecks have been excataved some year ago . A beautigful BMW801 engine with metal propeller blades , flame damper ,a lot of parts of the egine cowling of the same engien , and some fuselage parts including the samll wheels of the MG131 turret .

So Anyone of you who could have losses recorded at that date is well comme to contact me . The engine is in a museaum and we would like to identify the aircraft it was fitted in .

Many thanks

Eric Larger

Jim P. 11th April 2005 15:55

Re: Ju188 lost in France
 
I have two listed:

Ju 188-2, , Solinger, Uffz. Helmut, , 9., KG 6, , , , , 09-Jun-44, Crew killed in crash., , FR, Horn, Wir Flogen gen Westen, p.272, , St. Omer, 100%, F

Ju 188-2, , Rohloff, Ogefr. Karl-Heinz (Bf), , 8., KG 6, , , , , 09-Jun-44, Injured in FSA after Luftkampf. Crew FSA., , FR, Horn, Wir Flogen gen Westen, p.271, , 35km SW of Troyes, 100%, F


Eric Larger 11th April 2005 16:01

Re: Ju188 lost in France
 
Many thanks Jim



Do you have other entries early in june 1944 In Isigny Carentan St_lo area .

Losses of Ju188 or Ju88S losses . Used at night because of the flame dampers.

Eric

Jim P. 11th April 2005 18:05

Re: Ju188 lost in France
 
Ju 188-2, 180443, Schönberg, Ofw. Theodor, , 3., KG 6, , 3E+GL, , , 05-Jun-44, Crew killed in crash during take-off., , FR, Horn, Wir Flogen gen Westen, p.271, , , 100%, H

Ju 88A-4, , Kuhn, Uffz. Franz-Josef, , 9., KG 54, , B3+GT, , , 06-Jun-44, MIA during anti-shipping sortie, cause unknown. Bf POW, rest MIA., , FR, Radtke, KG 54 p.368, , Seinebucht, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, , Müller, Ltn. Rolf, , 9., KG 54, , B3+BT, , , 06-Jun-44, MIA with crew during anti-shipping sortie, cause unknown., , FR, Radtke, KG 54 p.368, , Seinebucht, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 301190, Wendt, Ofhr. Hans-Georg, , 3., KG 54, , B3+HL, , , 06-Jun-44, MIA during anti-shipping sortie, cause unknown. B KIA, rest MIA., , FR, Radtke, KG 54 p.368, , Seinebucht, 100%, F

Ju188E-1, 260539, Nootz, Ltn. Hans-Werner, , 2., KG 66, , Z6+HK, , , 06-Jun-44, MIA with crew, cause unknown., , FR, Hebestreit KG 66 loss list via M. Heijkop, , , 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, , Dollensky, Hptm. Franz, , 8., KG 54, , B3+GR, , , 06-Jun-44, MIA during anti-shipping sortie, cause unknown. B MIA, rest KIA., , FR, Radtke, KG 54 p.368, , Seinebucht, 100%, F

Ju 88C-6, 750597, Weber, Ogefr. Gerhard (Bs), , 2., ZG 1, , , , , 06-Jun-44, KIA due to enemy fire. Found looted., Jumo 211F/Port engine #M2M.47 M.U.J. 2, FR, Goss, Bloody Biscay, p.239; AI2(G) serial 245, , Berniers-Bacage, north of Caen, 100%, F

Ju 88C-6, , Keller, Uffz. Erich, , 2., ZG 1, , , , , 06-Jun-44, WIA with crew, cause not reported., , FR, Goss, Bloody Biscay, p.239; Vasco, The Sting of the LW, p.150, , Caen, 10%, F

Ju 88C-6, 750942, Herrmann, Uffz. Walter, , 2., ZG 1, , , , , 06-Jun-44, MIA due to enemy fire. 1 other MIA, 1 KIA., , FR, Goss, Bloody Biscay, p.239; Vasco, The Sting of the LW, p.150, , North of Caen, 100%, F

Ju 88C-6, 750924, Schwartz, Uffz. Kurt, , 2., ZG 1, , , , , 06-Jun-44, MIA with crew due to enemy fire., , FR, Goss, Bloody Biscay, p.239; Vasco, The Sting of the LW, p.150, , North of Caen, 100%, F

Ju188D-2, 150221, , , 3., KG 6, , 3E+KL, , , 06-Jun-44, Bombenwurf. Found destroyed by bombing in late-summer 1944., Date uncertain., FR, AI2(G) serial 257; Horn, Wir Flogen gen Westen, p.270, , Fl.Pl. Villaroche, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 301583, Birkner, Hptm. Herbert, , 3., KG 54, , B3+KL, , , 06-Jun-44, Stkp. MIA with crew during anti-shipping sortie, cause unknown., , FR, Radtke, KG 54 p.368, , Seinebucht, 100%, F

Ju 188-2, , Kaden, Fw. Wilfried, , 7., KG 6, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Injured due to Flak and FSA. 1 other injured, 1 killed., , FR, Horn, Wir Flogen gen Westen, p.271, , (Invasionsraum), 100%, F

Ju 188-2, , Müller, Oblt. Günther, , 7., KG 6, , , , , 06-Jun-44, Injured due to Flak and FSA. 1 other injured., , FR, Horn, Wir Flogen gen Westen, p.271, , (Invasionsraum), 100%, F

Ju 188-2, 160054, Müller, Ltn. Herbert, , 1., KG 6, , 3E+BH, , , 06-Jun-44, MIA with crew, cause unknown., , FR, Horn, Wir Flogen gen Westen, p.271, , (Caen), 100%, F

Ju 88C-6, 750374, Wolf, Ofw. Dietrich, , 2., ZG 1, , , , , 07-Jun-44, WIA in Tiefangriff. DOW., , FR, Goss, Bloody Biscay, p.240; Vasco, The Sting of the LW, p.150, , NW of Caen, 90%, F

Ju 88C-6, 751102, Theiss, Uffz. Günther, , 1., ZG 1, , , , , 07-Jun-44, WIA in Luftkampf with RAF fighters. 1 other WIA, 1 KIA (both from 3./ZG 1)., WNr. 750102 per Vasco., FR, Goss, Bloody Biscay, p.240; Vasco, The Sting of the LW, p.150, , NW of Caen, b, F

Ju 88C-6, 750104, Freiwald, Fw. Edmund, , 2., ZG 1, , 2N+NK, , , 07-Jun-44, MIA due to Flak. 1 other MIA, 1 POW., , FR, Goss, Bloody Biscay, p.239; Vasco, The Sting of the LW, p.150, , Between Caen and Bayeux, 100%, F

Ju 88C-6, 750441, Röder, Uffz. Hans, , 2., ZG 1, , 2N+CK, , , 07-Jun-44, KIA due to Flak. 1 other KIA, 1 POW., WNr. 750401 per Vasco., FR, Goss, Bloody Biscay, p.239; Vasco, The Sting of the LW, p.150, , near Caen, 100%, F

Ju 88C-6, 750899, Hanshen, Oblt. Ulrich, , Stab III., ZG 1, , , , , 07-Jun-44, Gr.Adj. MIA with crew due to enemy fire., , FR, Goss, Bloody Biscay, p.239; Vasco, The Sting of the LW, p.150, , Kanal, 100%, F

Ju 88C-6, 750699, Hollerith, Fw. Josef, , 7., ZG 1, , , , , 07-Jun-44, KIA with crew due to enemy fire., , FR, Goss, Bloody Biscay, p.239; Vasco, The Sting of the LW, p.150, , near Falence, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, , Müller, Ogefr. Albert (Bf), , 8., KG 54, , B3+ES, , , 07-Jun-44, MIA during anti-shipping sortie, cause unknown. Rest OK., , FR, Radtke, KG 54 p.368, , Seinebucht, 100%, F

Ju 88G-1, 710411, Strobel, Uffz. Kurt, , 3., ZG 1, , 2N+BL, , , 07-Jun-44, MIA with crew due to enemy fire., '2N+FK' per Vasco., FR, Goss, Bloody Biscay, p.239; Vasco, The Sting of the LW, p.150, , North of Caen, 100%, F

Ju 88C-6, 360431, Loew, Ltn. Kurt, , 7., ZG 1, , , , , 07-Jun-44, Stfhr. MIA due to enemy fire. 1 other KIA, Bf returned., , FR, Goss, Bloody Biscay, p.240; Vasco, The Sting of the LW, p.150, , Kanal, 100%, F

Ju 88T-1, 430913, Scherpf, Ofhr., , 1.(F), 123, , 4U+GH, , , 08-Jun-44, KIA with crew, possibly shot down by W/C Morris & F/L Sutton of 451 Sq., , Italy, Air War Italy, p.44, , SE of Chiusi (Pistoia area according to RAF), 100%, F

Ju 188-2, , Georgi, Ltn. Andreas, , 9., KG 6, , , , , 08-Jun-44, KIA due to Luftkampf with enemy nightfighter. 3 others killed., , FR, Horn, Wir Flogen gen Westen, p.271, , Bretigny, 100%, F

Ju 188-2, 180450, Dahlinger, Ltn. Alfred, , 7., KG 6, , 3E+CR, , , 08-Jun-44, MIA with crew after Luftkampf., , FR, Horn, Wir Flogen gen Westen, p.271, , , 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, , Blersch, Ltn. Otto, , 7., KG 54, , B3+ER, , , 08-Jun-44, KIA during anti-shipping sortie, cause unknown. Bf KIA, rest MIA., , FR, Radtke, KG 54 p.368, , Seinebucht, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 300379, Thaden, Ltn. Hans-Joachim, , 3., KG 54, , B3+BL, , , 08-Jun-44, Stkp. MIA during anti-shipping sortie, cause unknown. Bf KIA, rest MIA., , FR, Radtke, KG 54 p.368, , Viremündung, 100%, F

Ju 88R-2, 750897, Gmelin, Ltn. Knud, , 1., ZG 1, , 2N+AH, , , 09-Jun-44, Stfhr. KIA due to light Flak near Caen. Rest of crew WIA., Flew 70 missions, FR, Goss, Bloody Biscay, p.240; Vasco, The Sting of the LW, p.150, , Epron, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, , Lientscher, Fw. Wilhelm, , 8., KG 54, , B3+KA, , , 09-Jun-44, MIA with crew, cause unknown., , FR, Radtke, KG 54 p.368, , Landekopf Normandie, 100%, F

Ju 88R-2, , Dickel, Uffz. Rolf, , 1., ZG 1, , 2N+NH, , , 09-Jun-44, Hit barrage ballon., , FR, Goss, Bloody Biscay, p.241, , , b, F

Ju 88C-6, 750892, Dietler, Uffz. Ludwig (Bf), , 2., ZG 1, , , , , 09-Jun-44, MIA, cause unknown. Notlandung?, , FR, Goss, Bloody Biscay, p.241; Vasco, The Sting of the LW, p.150, , North of Caen, b, F

Ju 188-2, , Solinger, Uffz. Helmut, , 9., KG 6, , , , , 09-Jun-44, Crew killed in crash., , FR, Horn, Wir Flogen gen Westen, p.272, , St. Omer, 100%, F

Ju 188-2, , Rohloff, Ogefr. Karl-Heinz (Bf), , 8., KG 6, , , , , 09-Jun-44, Injured in FSA after Luftkampf. Crew FSA., , FR, Horn, Wir Flogen gen Westen, p.271, , 35km SW of Troyes, 100%, F

Ju 88S-1, 301471, Müller, Fw. Paul (B)/Duchstein, Uffz. Friedrich (F), , 1., KG 66, , Z6+CH, , , 10-Jun-44, MIA with crew, cause unknown., , FR, Hebestreit KG 66 loss list via M. Heijkop, , , 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, , Tronicke, Oblt. Werner, , 1., KG 54, , B3+BH, , , 10-Jun-44, Flak., DK, FR, Radtke, KG 54 p.368, , near Caretan, 70%, F

Ju 88C-6, 360316, Schmiedberger, Uffz. Xaver, , 9.(NJ), ZG 1, , 2N+GT, , , 10-Jun-44, KIA with crew, probably shot down by S/L Jepson of 409 Sq., , FR, Goss, Bloody Biscay, p.241; Vasco, The Sting of the LW, p.150, , North of Le Havre, 100%, F

Ju 88C-6, 750335, Engeln, Uffz. Erich, , 7., ZG 1, , 2N+CR, , , 10-Jun-44, KIA due to flak. 1 other KIA, 1 POW., , FR, Goss, Bloody Biscay, p.241; Vasco, The Sting of the LW, p.150, , Benouville, 100%, F

Ju 188-2, , Schmidt, FhjFw. Helmut, , 8., KG 6, , , , , 10-Jun-44, MIA after Luftkampf with enemy nightfighter. 3 others MIA, 1 FSA, OK., , FR, Horn, Wir Flogen gen Westen, p.272, , 5km south of Carentan, 100%, F

Ju 188-2, 180442, Schößner, Uffz. Oskar, , 1., KG 6, , 3E+HH, , , 11-Jun-44, MIA with crew, cause unknown., , FR, Horn, Wir Flogen gen Westen, p.272, , , 100%, F

Ju 188-2, , THURNER, Hptm. Hans, , Stab I., KG 6, , 3E+EB, , , 11-Jun-44, MIA with crew, cause unknown., , FR, Horn, Wir Flogen gen Westen, p.272, , Invasionfront, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 5882, Tiling, Ltn. Werner, , 1., KG 54, , B3+BH, , , 11-Jun-44, Injured in FSA due to Flak. Bs WIA, rest KIA., , FR, Radtke, KG 54 p.368, , near Chaillevois, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 5891, Fischer, Gefr. Friedrich (B), , 11., KG 2, , U5+, , , 12-Jun-44, Injured, overturning on take-off due to tire damage., , FR, Balke, Der Luftkrieg in Europa, II, p.522, , Fl.Pl. Ferihegy, b, F

Ju 88A-4, , Bahnemann, Ogefr. Horst, , 9., KG 54, , B3+DT, , , 12-Jun-44, KIA during anti-shipping sortie due to enemy nightfighter. 2 others KIA., , FR, Radtke, KG 54 p.369, , Seinebucht/Normandie, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, , Bastian, Uffz. Erwin, , 9., KG 54, , B3+CT, , , 12-Jun-44, KIA with crew due to enemy nightfighter during transfer flight., , FR, Radtke, KG 54 p.368, , near Soesterberg, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 301164?, Schrapel, Ogefr. Hans, , 9., KG 54, , B3+HT, , , 12-Jun-44, KIA with crew, cause unknown, during supply sortie., , FR, Radtke, KG 54 p.369; AI2(G) serial 245;Mombeek, LW, A Pictorial History, p.125, foto?, , Colleville-sur-Mer/Landekopf Normandie, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 140070, Käferstein, Ofw. Paul, , 1., LG 1, , L1+EH, , , 13-Jun-44, MIA due to Flak. 2 others MIA, 1 POW., , Invasionsraum, Taghon, LG 1, II, p.521, , Raum Seinebucht, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 140366, Schönherr, Oblt. Emil, , E.St., KG 101, , 5T+FX, , , 13-Jun-44, MIA with crew, cause unknown., , Lfl. 3, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, p.101, , , 100%, E

Ju 188-2, 180480, PUCHINGER, Major Rudolf, , Stab III., KG 6, , 3E+AS, , , 13-Jun-44, MIA with crew after Luftkampf., , FR, Horn, Wir Flogen gen Westen, p.272, , (Ornemündung), 100%, F

Ju 188-2, 160218, Koch, Uffz. Philipp, , 3., KG 6, , 3E+CL, , , 13-Jun-44, MIA with crew, cause unknown., , FR, Horn, Wir Flogen gen Westen, p.272, , , 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 8765, Scheiberle, Ltn. Herbert, , E.St., KG 101, , 5T+BX, , , 13-Jun-44, MIA with crew, cause unknown., , Lfl. 3, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, p.101, , , 100%, E

Ju 88A-4, 300237, Elsner, Uffz. Walter, , 1., KG 54, , B3+JH, , , 14-Jun-44, MIA with crew during anti-shipping sortie, cause unknown., , FR, Radtke, KG 54 p.369, , Ornemündung, 100%, F

Ju 188-2, 160089, Heinzelmann, Fw. W., , 1., KG 2, , U5+HH, , , 15-Jun-44, POW, being shot down by a Mosquito Mk.XVII of 456 Sq. (McEvoy & Austin). 4 other KIA., , Kanal, The Blitz, Then & Now, p.368, , Larkhill, Wiltshire, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 301347, Nickel, Fw. Friedrich, , 2., KG 54, , B3+EK, , , 15-Jun-44, MIA with crew during anti-shipping sortie, cause unknown., , FR, Radtke, KG 54 p.369, , Viremündung, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 300217, Mulfinger, Fw. Paul (B)/Piechottka, Uffz. Dieter (F), , 6., LG 1, , L1+IP, , , 15-Jun-44, Killed in crash due to engine trouble. 1 other killed., , Invasionsraum, Taghon, LG 1, II, p.521, , Raum Seinebucht, 100%, F

Ju 88S-1, 300647, Jaeger, Ofw. Konrad, , 1., KG 66, , Z6+KH, , , 15-Jun-44, MIA with crew, cause unknown., , FR, Hebestreit KG 66 loss list via M. Heijkop, , , 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, , Hubrich, Uffz. Walter (B), , 1., LG 1, , L1+HH, , , 16-Jun-44, WIA due to enemy nightfighter. Bruchlandung., , Invasionsraum, Taghon, LG 1, II, p.521, , Fl.Pl. Le Culot, 60%, F

Ju 88A-4, 801348, Stuchlik, Uffz. Heinz, , 3., LG 1, , L1+BL, , , 16-Jun-44, Fire from enemy nightfighter while landing. 2 WIA., , Invasionsraum, Taghon, LG 1, II, p.521, , Fl.Pl. Le Culot, b, F

Ju 88A-4, 3838, Harms, Hptm. Hermann (B)/Blume, Fhj.Fw. Gerhard (F), , 3., LG 1, , L1+EL, , , 16-Jun-44, MIA with crew after Luftkampf with enemy nightfighter., , Invasionsraum, Taghon, LG 1, II, p.521, , Raum Seinebucht, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 3999, Wilde, Ltn. Dietrich, , 3., LG 1, , L1+FL, , , 16-Jun-44, Bruchlandung after Luftkampf with nightfighter. 2 WIA., , Invasionsraum, Taghon, LG 1, II, p.522, , Fl.Pl. Melsbroek, b, F

Ju 88A-4, 301512, Kulp, Uffz. Rolf, , 4., LG 1, , L1+HM, NK+QU, 'HM' on rudder., 16-Jun-44, Crew KIA in Bruchlandung due to Flak. Found burned out., Jumo 211 J 1041302832 & 1041301050, Invasionsraum, AI2(G) serial 245; Taghon, LG 1, II, p.522, , 2km east of Tailleville, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 801482, Krahmer, Ltn. Kuno, , 1., LG 1, , L1+AH, , , 16-Jun-44, WIA due to enemy nightfighter., , Invasionsraum, Taghon, LG 1, II, p.521, , Raum Seinebucht, b, F

Ju 88R-2, 751167, Kern, Ltn. Karl, , 2., NJG 4, , , , , 16-Jun-44, WIA in Luftkampf with enemy nightfighter. Crew KIA., , Nachtjagd, Höhler, Deutsche Nachtjagd Personalverluste, p.94, , Laon, 100%, F

Ju 88A-12, 0823, Burghardt, Fw. Max, , , Flzg.Führ.Sch. B 18, , , , , 16-Jun-44, Crew killed in crash due to pilot error., , Lfl. Reich, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, p.105, , Reifträgerberg, 100%, H

Ju 88A-4, 141741, Müller, Fw. Siegfried (B)/Schierle, Uffz. Willi (F), , 2., LG 1, , L1+MK, , , 17-Jun-44, MIA with crew after Luftkampf with nightfighter., Mining Seinebucht., Invasionsraum, Taghon, LG 1, II, p.522, , Raum Seinebucht, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 144595, Strohscheid, Uffz. Hans, , 3., LG 1, , L1+DL, , , 17-Jun-44, MIA with crew after Luftkampf with nightfighter., Mining Seinebucht., Invasionsraum, Taghon, LG 1, II, p.522, , Raum Seinebucht, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 144381, Sebastian, Uffz. Berthold, , 6., LG 1, , , , , 17-Jun-44, MIA with crew after Luftkampf with nightfighter., Mining Seinebucht., Invasionsraum, Taghon, LG 1, II, p.522, , Raum Seinebucht, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 550461, Lorber, Ltn. Theodor, , 5., LG 1, , L1+HN, , , 17-Jun-44, MIA with crew after Luftkampf with nightfighter., Mining Seinebucht., Invasionsraum, Taghon, LG 1, II, p.522, , Raum Seinebucht, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 35780, Wilde, Uffz. Horst, , 2., KG 54, , B3+HK, , , 18-Jun-44, MIA due to enemy nightfighter during Mineneinsatz. 2 others MIA., , FR, Radtke, KG 54 p.369, , near St. Lo, 100%, F

Ju 188-2, 180456, Krah, Uffz. Gerhard, , 8., KG 6, , 3E+GS, , , 19-Jun-44, MIA with crew after Luftkampf., , FR, Horn, Wir Flogen gen Westen, p.272, , (Ornemündung), 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, , Nissen, Fw. Paul, , 9., KG 54, , B3+BT, , , 19-Jun-44, KIA with crew during Mineneinsatz, cause unknown., , FR, Radtke, KG 54 p.369, , Seinebucht Normandie, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 5859, Fazler, Fw. Karl, , 5., LG 1, , L1+FM, , , 20-Jun-44, MIA with crew after Luftkampf with nightfighter., Mining Seinebucht., Invasionsraum, Taghon, LG 1, II, p.522, , Raum Seinebucht, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 300253, Neuhäuser, Ofhr. Armin, , 1., LG 1, , L1+AK, , , 20-Jun-44, MIA with crew after Luftkampf with nightfighter., Mining Seinebucht., Invasionsraum, Taghon, LG 1, II, p.522, , Raum Seinebucht, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 883900, Knipphals, Uffz. Rolf, , 2., KG 54, , B3+KH, , , 20-Jun-44, MIA with crew during Mineneinsatz, cause unknown., , FR, Radtke, KG 54 p.369, , Seinebucht Normandie, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, , Junghans, Uffz. Fritz, , 7., KG 54, , B3+DR, , , 20-Jun-44, MIA with crew during Mineneinsatz, cause unknown., , FR, Radtke, KG 54 p.369, , Seinebucht Normandie, 100%, F

Ju188F-1, 280608, Schanze, Fw. F./Winne, Oblt. J., , 1.(F), 120, , A6+HH, , , 21-Jun-44, Crew killed, flew into a hill during a reconnaissance sortie., , Kanal, The Blitz, Then & Now, p.381, , NW of Rothes, Morayshire, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 141189, Fiedler, Ofw. Siegfried, , Stab, LG 1, , L1+IN, , , 21-Jun-44, MIA with crew after Luftkampf with nightfighter., Mining Seinebucht., Invasionsraum, Taghon, LG 1, II, p.522, , Raum Seinebucht, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 301480, , , II., LG 1, , , , , 21-Jun-44, Bombenwurf., , Invasionsraum, Taghon, LG 1, II, p.522, , Fl.Pl. Chièvres, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 301479, , , II., LG 1, , , , , 21-Jun-44, Bombenwurf., , Invasionsraum, Taghon, LG 1, II, p.522, , Fl.Pl. Chièvres, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 801481, Kunert, Uffz. Oswald, , 6., LG 1, , L1+EP, , , 21-Jun-44, MIA with crew after Luftkampf with nightfighter., Mining Seinebucht., Invasionsraum, Taghon, LG 1, II, p.522, , Raum Seinebucht, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, , Gauert, Uffz. Karl, , 9., KG 54, , B3+KT, , , 21-Jun-44, MIA with crew during Mineneinsatz, cause unknown., , FR, Radtke, KG 54 p.369, , Seinebucht Normandie, 100%, F

Ju 188-2, 180461, Reiß, Ofhr. Gerhard, , 2., KG 6, , 3E+HK, , , 21-Jun-44, KIA with crew due to Luftkampf with enemy nightfighter., , FR, Horn, Wir Flogen gen Westen, p.273, , Fort Veaux, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 140741, HELBIG, Oberstltn. Joachim, , Stab, LG 1, , L1+FN, , , 22-Jun-44, Kom. Injured in Bruchlandung due to engine trouble. 2 others injured., , Invasionsraum, Taghon, LG 1, II, p.522, , Fl.Pl. Melsbroeck, b, F

Ju 88A-4, 550007, Lange, Uffz. Gotthard, , 6., LG 1, , L1+DP, , , 22-Jun-44, KIA due to Luftkampf with nightfighter. Crew MIA., Mining Seinebucht., Invasionsraum, Taghon, LG 1, II, p.522, , Raum Seinebucht, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 301343, Schulte, Oblt. Karl-Heinz, , 3., LG 1, , L1+FH, , , 23-Jun-44, Stkp. KIA due to Luftkampf with nightfighter. Crew MIA., , Invasionsraum, Taghon, LG 1, II, p.522, , Raum Seinebucht, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 883514, Weidner, Uffz. Hans, , 3., KG 54, , B3+NL, , , 23-Jun-44, MIA with crew during Mineneinsatz, cause unknown., , FR, Radtke, KG 54 p.369, , Seinebucht Normandie, 100%, F

Ju 188-2, 160058, Freeden, Uffz. Günther, , 3., KG 6, , 3E+AL, , , 23-Jun-44, KIA, cause unknown. 1 other KIA, 3 MIA., , FR, Horn, Wir Flogen gen Westen, p.273, , , 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 144382, Steinkrüger, Uffz. Werner, , 5., LG 1, , L1+EN, , , 23-Jun-44, Crew injured in Notlandung due to engine trouble., Mining Seinebucht., Invasionsraum, Taghon, LG 1, II, p.522, , Fl.Pl. Melsbroek, 100%, F

Ju 188-2, , der Heyde, Ltn. Roderich von, , 2., KG 2, , U5+GK, , , 24-Jun-44, On 23./24.6.44 crashed on landing or take-off. Crew OK., , FR, Balke, Der Luftkrieg in Europa, II, p.494, , Fl.Pl. Gilze-Rijen, 40%, F

Ju 88A-4, 300640, Rehwald, Uffz. Karl-Heinz, , 3., LG 1, , L1+HL, , , 24-Jun-44, MIA with crew after Luftkampf with nightfighter., Mining Seinebucht., Invasionsraum, Taghon, LG 1, II, p.522, , Raum Seinebucht, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 301507, Müller, Uffz. Johannes (Bs), , 5., LG 1, , L1+DN, , , 24-Jun-44, Injured in Bruchlandung., Mining Seinebucht., Invasionsraum, Taghon, LG 1, II, p.523, , Fl.Pl. Melsbroek, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 550206, Huth, Ogefr. Werner, , 1., KG 54, , B3+CH, , , 25-Jun-44, KIA due to Luftkampf with enemy nightfighter. Bs MIA, rest WIA., , FR, Radtke, KG 54 p.369, , near Gainville, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 301581, Gadesmann, Ltn. Wolfgang, , 4., LG 1, , , , , 25-Jun-44, Crew killed in crash., Mining Seinebucht., Invasionsraum, Taghon, LG 1, II, p.523, , Marly, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 301445, Wenk, Ltn. Rolf, , 2., KG 54, , B3+KA, , , 26-Jun-44, MIA with crew during Mineneinsatz, cause unknown., , FR, Radtke, KG 54 p.369, , Seinebucht Normandie, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 800925, Schnell, Uffz. Hermann, , 2., KG 54, , B3+NK, , , 26-Jun-44, KIA during Mineneinsatz, cause unknown. Crew MIA., , FR, Radtke, KG 54 p.369, , Seinebucht, 100%, F

Ju 188-2, 180429, Schmale, Fw. Herbert, , 2., KG 6, , 3E+KK, , , 28-Jun-44, MIA, cause unknown. 3 others MIA, 1 POW., , FR, Horn, Wir Flogen gen Westen, p.273, , , 100%, F

Ju 88C-6, 750898, Migge, Uffz. Werner, , 9.(NJ), ZG 1, , , , , 28-Jun-44, KIA, probably shot down by F/L Howard-Williams & F/O Macrae of the FIU. 1 other KIA, 1 MIA., , FR, Goss, Bloody Biscay, p.241; Vasco, The Sting of the LW, p.151, , 2km East of Dancey, near Chateaudun, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, , Seehaber, Uffz. Gotthart, , 9., KG 54, , B3+LT, , , 28-Jun-44, KIA with crew due to enemy nightfighter during Mineneinsatz., , FR, Radtke, KG 54 p.369, , near Eindhoven, 100%, F

Ju 188-2, 180401, der Heyde, Ltn. Roderich von, , 1., KG 2, , U5+FH, , , 29-Jun-44, POW on 28./29.6.44 during Mineneinsatz. 3 others POW, 1 MIA., , FR, Balke, Der Luftkrieg in Europa, p.494, , Seinebucht, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, , Klüpfel, Uffz. Franz, , 8., KG 54, , B3+ES, , , 29-Jun-44, MIA with crew during anti-shipping sortie, cause unknown., , FR, Radtke, KG 54 p.369, , Seinebucht Normandie, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 3554, Deutscher, Fw. Rudolf, , 2., LG 1, , L1+OK, , , 29-Jun-44, Luftkampf with enemy nightfighter. B KIA, rest returned., Mining Seinebucht., Invasionsraum, Taghon, LG 1, II, p.523, , Orbais, south of Le Culot, 100%, F

Ju 88A-4, 550445, HOHENBURG, Hptm. Dieter-Clemm von, , Stab II., LG 1, , , , , 30-Jun-44, Kdr. Crew killed in crash after becoming lost., Mining Seinebucht., Invasionsraum, Taghon, LG 1, II, p.523, , Wiesbaden, 100%, F


Eric Larger 11th April 2005 19:18

Re: Ju188 lost in France
 
Great Jim

I Will send you a picture of the found pieces

give me your personnal email adress

Eric Larger

markr 12th April 2005 05:14

Re: Ju188 lost in France
 
Jim P.,

Great, detailed information here on Kampfgeschwader and other losses!
Where were you able to acquire all of this?

Best regards,

markr

Andrew Arthy 12th April 2005 07:06

Re: Ju188 lost in France
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by markr
Jim P.,

Great, detailed information here on Kampfgeschwader and other losses!
Where were you able to acquire all of this?

Best regards,

markr

Hi Mark,

After each loss entry Jim has included his sources. They seem to be mostly secondary sources.

Cheers,
Andrew A.

Eric Larger 12th April 2005 12:17

Re: Ju188 lost in France
 
Ju 188 lost in France June 1944

I think I have found the machine recovered

Ju 188-2, , Schmidt, FhjFw. Helmut, , 8., KG 6, , , , , 10-Jun-44, MIA after Luftkampf with enemy nightfighter. 3 others MIA, 1 FSA, OK., , FR, Horn, Wir Flogen gen Westen, p.272, , 5km south of Carentan, 100%, F

The date is cose to the one reported to me , and the location is 5 km south Carentan

Does any one have other infoirmation on thsi machien and these crews ?

Eric

Jim P. 12th April 2005 15:04

Re: Ju188 lost in France
 
Let me check the Horn history of KG 6 - the rest of the crew should listed.

Don't suppose a WNr. plate was part of the wreckage found?

Chris Goss 12th April 2005 15:23

Re: Ju188 lost in France
 
I now have all the Namentliche Verlustemeldung for all German bomber losses over Normandy during this period. The problem is that very very few locations are given and without a crew man or Wk Nr, to identify positively is nigh impossible. Furthermore, if an ac was lost without any crew casualties (Hogeback was one of these), there is no record unless a War Diary exists. Be very careful of jumping to conclusions!


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