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Siko54 9th September 2015 09:28

6/KG1 Ju88 V4+RP loss 30 Jun 43 Lt Carl-Heinz Friedrich
 
I've recently acquired the very interesting Flugbuch of Oblt Carl-Heinz Friedrich (Ju88, He177 and Me262 pilot with KG1/51), which I posted about previously and have linked a few photos in an album on my profile page. I've just started going through his Flugbuch and found a very interesting entry from the 30th June 1943, any help you can provide with this would be appreciated.

30 Jun 1943 flight 1036 Ju88a4 V4+RP einsatz, took off Ciampino at 0140 and shot down 30km West of Bosa (Sardinia) at 0310. In his Flugbuch his next entry is his rescue by a Do24 flown by Ofw Schatz, flown out of Porte Conte at 1230 on 2 Jul 1943 and landing at Olbia 1310. I believe he was shot down by Flak.

Any details you can add to this would be appreciated!

Many thanks,

Siko

edNorth 9th September 2015 21:41

Re: 6/KG1 Ju88 V4+RP loss 30 Jun 43 Lt Carl-Heinz Friedrich
 
(088)2647 Ju 88 A-4 V4+RP 6./KG 1 (Luftflotte 2)
OPS (F) mis (100%) unk location (Bone Harbour) 28.06.1943 (F and BF were saved, B Uffz. Werner Geßner and BS Obgefr. Manfred Böhm missing)

So there is date mismatch. Salonen NVM also 28.06.43 and PLQ "81594/04" (Öst)

-Ed

Siko54 9th September 2015 22:39

Re: 6/KG1 Ju88 V4+RP loss 30 Jun 43 Lt Carl-Heinz Friedrich
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edNorth (Post 206352)
(088)2647 Ju 88 A-4 V4+RP 6./KG 1 (Luftflotte 2)
OPS (F) mis (100%) unk location (Bone Harbour) 28.06.1943 (F and BF were saved, B Uffz. Werner Geßner and BS Obgefr. Manfred Böhm missing)

So there is date mismatch. Salonen NVM also 28.06.43 and PLQ "81594/04" (Öst)

-Ed

Thanks for the info....that's really interesting. I've looked in his Flugbuch and he flew on the 26th, then next he flew V4+RP on the 29th Jun uberfuhrung from S. Pancrazio at 1627 to Ciampino landing 1806. Hence he wasn't airborne that day....could it be another element of KG1? What could explain the mismatch?

Much appreciated anyway, this is fascinating to me at least!

Matti Salonen 10th September 2015 07:51

Re: 6/KG1 Ju88 V4+RP loss 30 Jun 43 Lt Carl-Heinz Friedrich
 
Interesting. The original NVM at WASt has a typed date 30 June. but later on it has been changed with a pencil to 28 June. Now, it seems that the original date is correct.
I am unsure why there are quite many date changes made during processing of the NVMs at WASt during the war. My assumption is that the changes might be a result of different date of GQM documents, which for some reason was considered more reliable and therefore correct.
In my database I am using the "corrected" date and keeping the original as a note.
If somebody knows the reason for date changes, I would be happy to know that.

Matti

Siko54 10th September 2015 08:54

Re: 6/KG1 Ju88 V4+RP loss 30 Jun 43 Lt Carl-Heinz Friedrich
 
Thanks Matti, so the mistake was made afterwards then? Please excuse my ignorance but can you see this document online? I'd love to see a picture of it if possible.

Many thanks for your help, much appreciated.


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