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knusel 12th October 2023 10:02

The other guys: notable airmen with a total score of 4
 
Good morning Gentlemen,

4 is an unlucky number in competitions. In sports the fourth-ranking athlete is the first who doesn't receive a medal and in airwar a score of 4 is one short of acedom and glory. I gathered some rather notable WW2 airmen with a final score of 4:
  • Stoyan Stoyanov and Chudomir Toplodolski, 3,33 each, Bulgarian top-scorers
  • Edouard Corniglion-Molinier, 2,31+2 in WW1, scorer in both World Wars
  • Cyril Talalla, 3,83, from Malaya
  • Gerben Soderman, 4, Fokker G.I top scorer
  • Jerzy Czerniak, 3,33 and Tadeusz Czerwinski 4, scorers in the Caudron C.714
  • Cristu Cristu, 4+4sh, Romanian PZL pilot but decimals of shares unknown to me
  • Lee Archer, 4,5 or 4, and Edward Toppins, 4, Tuskegee airmen
Cheers,

Michael

knusel 2nd January 2024 14:25

Re: The other guys: notable airmen with a total score of 4
 
In Osprey Aviation Elite 024 - 332nd Fighter Group - Tuskegee Airmen (2007) the scores of Archer, Toppins and Elsberry are indicated as five, four and four, respectively but the USAF Historical Study No. 85 of 1978 indicates only four for Archer, four for Toppins and one for Elsberry. Were claims confirmed belatedly or upgraded after 1978 ?

FalkeEins 14th February 2024 13:47

Re: The other guys: notable airmen with a total score of 4
 
Check Wilhelm Schmitter, KG 40, V./KG 2 credited with 4, RK Sep 42...

knusel 17th February 2024 11:54

Re: The other guys: notable airmen with a total score of 4
 
Wilhelm Schmitter was also awarded a posthumous Eichenlaub in 1944. I didn't know that he had 4 kills.
Joachim Helbig had 4 kills, too.


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