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ianatheling 7th November 2011 15:43

Heinkel He111 1G+BA loss details?
 
On eBay here there are various photos, of which at least 1 is coded 1G+BA of Stab./KG27 having crash landed. Are there any loss details on this?

Regards

Ian

Lucass 8th November 2011 05:56

Re: Heinkel He111 1G+BA loss details?
 
I've found only a short info about pilot, which flew He 111 1G+BA in KG 27 but no details about crash landing.
http://www.military-art.com/ap010.htm

Matti Salonen 12th November 2011 18:51

Re: Heinkel He111 1G+BA loss details?
 
I cannot see the photos any more, because the auction has been ended. However, if the code is 1G+PA, we have this:
1941-06-22, Stabsst./KG 27, He 111H-2, 5476, 1G+PA, Liteni-Tuderesti, 20 km südwestlich Botosani/Rumänien, Notlandung um 04.50 Uhr infolge M.G.-Beschuß. Bruch 30 %.
Flugzeugführer Lt Krems, Gerhard, verletzt
Beobachter Olt Klatt

Or perhaps there is a typo in NVM and 1G+BA is correct?

Matti

Bf 110 12th November 2011 20:30

Re: Heinkel He111 1G+BA loss details?
 
Hello Matti,

the photographs are still there. You have to scroll down. It's 1G+BA.
To me it looks like a hit on the ground by another a/c, because of the unusual damage of the tail.

rgds,
Bf 110

ianatheling 12th November 2011 20:48

Re: Heinkel He111 1G+BA loss details?
 
Hi

Thanks to everyone on their comments so far. I agree that it does look like a ground incident. The He111 has tarp covering the gun position, so may have been stationary when hit by another aircraft. I would imagine the damage is though still sufficient enough to have been recorded.

regards

Ian

Larry Hickey 12th November 2011 21:20

Re: Heinkel He111 1G+BA loss details?
 
Hello,

I can also confirm that this is 1G+BA, which is also clear from other photos of this incident. This appears to me to be Western Campaign of May-June, 1940, and I concur that it looks like something collided with the tail of this a/c. This would like be the a/c of the Geschwader Adjutant of Stab KG27. Anybody know who this was in mid-1940? There is probably some kind of insignia on the nose of this a/c.

Regards,

Matti Salonen 12th November 2011 21:51

Re: Heinkel He111 1G+BA loss details?
 
Then possibly this:
1940-03-07, Stabsst./KG 27, He 111H, Fl.Pl. Münster-Handorf, Gerammt von He 111H-2. Bruch 18 %.
1940-03-07, 1.(F)/121, He 111H-2, Fl.Pl. Münster-Handorf, Bei Landung ausgebrochen und Zusammenstoß mit He 111H. Bruch 45 %.

Matti


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