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Cees Steijger 13th March 2024 15:24

USAAF Battle Formations
 
USAAF VIII Fighter Corps fighter groups used to fly in Finger Four formation of two elements. But in a battle formation the planes of the two elements had a different position. What was that difference, can somebody explain?

--Cees Steijger

udf_00 14th March 2024 13:21

Re: USAAF Battle Formations
 
Combat Profile, Mustang: The P-51 Merlin Mustang In World War 2
Roger A. Freeman
p.15 :
Close formation
Planes fly about 75 yards apart
Open or 'battle' formation
Planes fly about 250 yards apart

Buckeye30 14th March 2024 19:07

Re: USAAF Battle Formations
 
The "Finger Four" was standard through the war but flights and squadrons positions varied; until 1944 when the enemy coast was reached they formed line-abreast stepped up and down, as in diagram 2. Aircraft in a flight were about 750 ft. apart, the distance still able to read code letters. Then sections of 2 flights parallel, until the bombers were reached when the squadron (4 flights) formed around the box.

Flight = 4 aircraft, Squadron = 16, Group = 48.


Nick




https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...a50278ba_o.jpgformations by Nicholas King, on Flickr

R Leonard 14th March 2024 19:23

Re: USAAF Battle Formations
 
Larger separation might have something to do with turning radius

Buckeye30 15th March 2024 11:32

Re: USAAF Battle Formations
 
Yes the gap between squadrons in a group mission was 1 mile, between elements in a flight of 4 was 250 yds.; a 16-plane squadron was spread over at least 2 miles. If a flight needed to change position in a 90* turn and still maintain side-by-side elements, the second element (nos. 3-4) passed under the lead (nos.1-2), so when completed their relative positions were reversed.
Formations were opened up just before the coast was reached, an improvement on earlier Eighth ops. (P-38s & P-47s) where spacings were closer (more risk of collisions and less chance to spot enemy aircraft).
Regards
Nick

Cees Steijger 20th March 2024 09:58

Re: USAAF Battle Formations
 
Many thanks. This is helpful. --Cees

Cees Steijger 20th March 2024 09:58

Re: USAAF Battle Formations
 
Clear! Thanks for this.

Cees Steijger 20th March 2024 09:59

Re: USAAF Battle Formations
 
Thanks!


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