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Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

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Originally Posted by kirche (Post 267837)

Hello,
From our old cases...
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Fw. Buchener (Karl?), II./JG.54
11 .08. 1942 Bf 109G-2 W.Nr. 10388

Pilot - POW (Russia)

Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

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Originally Posted by Tony Kambic (Post 267921)

Another DB605 in the NASM collection is 25898. No dataplate, but in the stamping on the block ( similar to the images I posted of the DB603s above ) is a 'B' then a space followed by an 'R7' and another space followed by '3456'. The white painted 25898 B is also on the side of the block.

The stamping looks like this 25898B R7 3456

There is no aircraft associated with the engine.

Tony

Look at the box in the picture i posted a little up. That could explain the R7 3456 number

Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

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Originally Posted by Matti Salonen (Post 267546)

Enclosed a list of DB engine numbers, which I have found.

Matti

Many thanks again Matti!

Here are two more DB605 engines that have survived and I have worked on and I have run both these engines in 109's! :)
First DB605A-1 77563. Captured in N.Africa '42/'43. Returned to UK. Fitted to Bf109G-2Trop 10639.
Next, the only running DB605D 011101639. Found stored in '80s. Restored and fitted in Han's Dittes Bf109G-10 rebuild.
Cheers

SM

Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

Hi everyone!
Just another DB605A identity with manufacturer to add to the jigsaw.
I have a genuine alloy identity plate that is from an unknown recovery.
Here are the details:
Gerat-Nr 9 605 A 1
Werk-Nr 35404
hsr

The numbers and hsr are stamped into the metal. I estimate that this was a Henschel-Flugmotorenbau GmbH, Kassel built motor and the number would fit approximately into the Bf109G-2 series. Cheers

SM

Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

Finally since I have room to post, here is the front end of DB603 01602842 with the nose case removed, undergoing preservation and prior to assembly for the He219. You can visualize etched 4 digits on the top of the two gears 2842. The upper one is somewhat difficult to distinguish as 2842 due to the scrolling and almost appears to be 2839 but if you study it closer you will see the 2842.

Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

Thank you for posting the pic of the reduction gear housing Tony! Yes, the numbers electro-etched on those bearing components do show the last 4 digits of the engine serial 2842 IMO. The question of the 2826 stamp on the case adjacent to the ID plate remains open. In my experience, re-allocated components on the DB engines had the inappropriate number or part of the number lined through and, the new engine number stamped. I have usually seen this on overhauled or repaired engines. The engine component numbering proceedure applied to nearly all components. Small components often only had the last 3 or 4 numbers and on steel parts, this was often electro etched. Fit tolerance and assembly position was marked on all size-fitted parts. I suspect that that crankcase will also have it's number stamped on the front top area, above the reduction gear housing in this photo, but I can't make it out and, as carefully matched parts all the main bearing caps will probably be stamped with the full engine number.
Overall, I can imagine circumstances where this engine crankcase was re-allocated a slightly later build number, but it is pure conjecture. Also, I really would expect the 2826 number to have at least the "26" lined through and the "42" stamped above. Random stamped numbers like that are unusual.
Thanks very much for posting these pics!

SM

Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

Indeed, thank you very much, Tony! Very interesting pictures!

Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

In view of the considerable DB601/603/605 production data and information sources on this thread, can I please propose that this thread is added to the "sticky" list at the start so that, further contributions and updates can be easily co-located? Thanks

SM

Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

Great to see this thread here as a Sticky! :)

Members, please donate your DB600/601,603,605 engine data. This thread can act as a great resource. Thanks

SM