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focusfocus 17th November 2017 21:16

Ju-88 G-1 lost 6/7 august 1944
 
Hi

In that night,the Ju-88 G-1 Wnr 710596 (4R-RN) of 5/NJG2:Oblt.Hans Dieter HOLZHAUSEN,Fw.Adam MAYER,Uffz.Helmut SCHAUB was shot down by a night fighter and crashed on a PANTHER of the SS-Panzer-Regiment 1!!(Longueveille-2 km of Saint-Clement-Rancoudray,6 km of MORTAIN) blocking the PANTHER Column for 2 hours during the famous counterattack of MORTAIN.

Who claimed victories in that region,that night?

Thanks in advance
Best Regards

Michel

Theo Boiten 18th November 2017 13:06

Re: Ju-88 G-1 lost 6/7 august 1944
 
Hello Michel,

Interesting posting, thanks for sharing these details, but what is your primary source for this Ju88 loss on 6-7.8.44?

Best regards, Theo

edNorth 18th November 2017 14:30

Re: Ju-88 G-1 lost 6/7 august 1944
 
Number appears be in error.

710696 Ju 88 G-1 [4R+RN] II/NJG 2 (Luftwaffe)
Assigned unit 25.07.44 - Based at Coulumier - Missing on operional flight 06.08.1944 (Obltn. Holzhausen and crew missing)
[“5./NJG 2 doc”]
OPS (F) [found crashed at Mortain in Brittany area France] 07.08.1944 (Oblt. Heinz-Dieter Holzhausen, Uffz. Helmut Schaub and Uffz. Adam Meyer missing; Holzhauzen rep MIA in 08.44, Schaub. rep killed 07.44)
[French homepage (about Brittany area Wrecks & Relics); G-1 0696 TI+QH 4R+AN BMW 801 G-2, one No. 32164 “found burned out at Mortain” in Crashed Enemy Aircraft, A.I.2.(g), Report Serial No.253 (dated 20.09.44)]

S Sheflin 18th November 2017 16:58

Re: Ju-88 G-1 lost 6/7 august 1944
 
Hi Ed,

As usual, thanks for the great information.

If only for accuracy, I believe the correct Motornummer for the Ju 88 G-1 loss in question is: 327164.

Respectfully,

Steve Sheflin

Nick Beale 18th November 2017 17:11

Re: Ju-88 G-1 lost 6/7 august 1944
 
"Based at Coulumier"

I'd guess that should be Coulommiers.

Theo Boiten 18th November 2017 17:46

Re: Ju-88 G-1 lost 6/7 august 1944
 
Thanks Ed for the useful additional info! Would you be so kind as to post a link to the French homepage about Brittany area wrecks and relics?

Cheers, Theo

focusfocus 18th November 2017 17:55

Re: Ju-88 G-1 lost 6/7 august 1944
 
Theo and others

The french magazine Normandie 1944 n°25

For those who can not get the magazine:I summarize.

In the night of 6/7 august 1944,about fifteen inhabitants and refugees were awakened around mindnight (french time)by the fall of a bomber on two PANTHERS (SS-PANZER 1).

on their return from exodus,they found the calcined body of one of the crew members.

Excavations carried out in 2000 revealed pieces of Ju-88 (armored pilot seat) in the middle of pieces of PANTHER.

My question:Who shot down a Ju-88 in the region?
Michel

Nick Beale 18th November 2017 17:56

Re: Ju-88 G-1 lost 6/7 august 1944
 
Hi Theo, it could be this one: http://www.absa3945.com

MW Giles 18th November 2017 18:17

Re: Ju-88 G-1 lost 6/7 august 1944
 
Victories claimed by

422 NFS 1Lt L A Gordon 1Lt C H Morrison P-61 A Black Widow 42-5540
Ju188 Pro

604 F/L J C I Hooper F/O S C Hubbard Mosquito XIII MM621
Bf110 Dam (440125 8/NJG4)

23:43 488 F/L G E Jameson F/O A N Crookes Mosquito XIII MM466 R
Ju88 Dam 5 m W of Vire

23:55 86 OTU Wellington HF495
Fighter 4820N 0220W

00:02 219 F/L P G K Williamson F/O F E Forrest Mosquito XXX -
Ju188 Des Argentan

00:15 488 F/L G E Jameson F/O A N Crookes Mosquito XIII MM466 R
Ju88 Des 15m E of Avranches

00:50 604 F/L J C Surman P/O C E Weston Mosquito XIII MM449 B
Bf110 Des (140320 8/NJG4)

01:00 604 W/C F D Hughes F/L L Dixon Mosquito XIII MM465
Ju188 Des S of Avranches

01:15 604 F/L J C Surman P/O C E Weston Mosquito XIII MM449 B
Do217 Des

02:15 410 S/L J D Somerville F/O G D Robinson Mosquito XIII MM566 R
Ju88 Des St Hilaire

02:45 604 F/L J C Surman P/O C E Weston Mosquito XIII MM449
Do217 Des

02:51 488 F/L A E Browne W/O T F Taylor Mosquito XIII HK420
Ju188 Des SW of Avranches

03:05 604 F/O R M T MacDonald F/S C G Baird Mosquito XIII MM500
Ju188 Des

03:06 488 F/L A E Browne W/O T F Taylor Mosquito XIII HK420
Do217 Des SW of Rennes

03:30 488 F/L A E Browne W/O T F Taylor Mosquito XIII HK420
Do217 Des W of Rennes


Regards

Martin

focusfocus 18th November 2017 19:59

Re: Ju-88 G-1 lost 6/7 august 1944
 
Thank you Martin.

guys

MORTAIN is in Normandie (Manche) NOT in BRITTANY

Michel


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