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Col Bruggy 4th February 2019 03:06

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Hello,

Quite a bit of misinformation published about the loss of No.83 Sqn Hampden I P4340 on 12/13 August, 1940. Here are the pilot's (40050 A/F/L Allen Roy MULLIGAN RAF), own words:

F/Lt A. R. Mulligan - Sydney, Australia - Pilot - "Hampden" - Night of 12/13 August 1940.

"Low level attack on the Dortmund-Ems Canal - went in No.2 at 50 feet. Light flak and mgs set starboard engine on fire - climbed to about 400 feet. Port engine vibrating badly and aileron controls U/S. Managed to stop a flat spin and then crash landed in a field. Burning starboard engine torn out of mainplane. Navigator & W/Op killed. Airscrew from port engine came through side of cockpit pinning me in. Port engine caught fire - flames increased for a short time - then went out.

Goons arrived but I could not be released until airscrew was removed which took 4 and-a-half hours - but there was no hurry they could have taken 4 years!"

(Signed) A. R. Mulligan, Sagan, August, 1944.

See:
Tales from the Sagan Woods.
Gould, A. H. DFC (40692, RAF - 61 Sqn. POW 20/21 June, 1940)
Bundanoon(NSW):Author,1994.
pp.8 (& p.57 of Gould's POW Journal, reproduced in this ref).

Col.

Martin Gleeson 4th February 2019 03:06

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Gentlemen,

The answer is maybe not so strange. P4340 was either loaned or transferred to 83 Squadron at short notice. If a permanent transfer was intended maybe the paperwork was never completed due to the almost immediate loss in action.
P4340 was flown operationally four times by 61 Squadron during early August 1940 (Nights 2/3, 4/5, 7/8 and 10/11). On the last two missions it suffered from vibration and compass problems. Perhaps this made it an easy choice for 61 Squadron to part with. Therefore it could only have reached 83 Squadron on either August 11th or 12th, so there was no time to change the markings.

The above interpretation based on the 61 and 83 Squadron ORBs, the Scampton Appendices for August 1940 and the Form 78 aircraft record card for P4340 (which has no mention of 83 Squadron).

Hope this helps. Thanks for putting up the links to those photos.

Regards,

Martin Gleeson.

Faenor 4th February 2019 09:34

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Hello Mr. Gleeson,

thanks for info - now it make sense. Photo relocated to right archive -83. SQ:-)

Have a nice day

Faenor

Faenor 4th February 2019 09:48

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Hi all,

Hurricane from Greece 1941:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/FOTO-FLUGZEU...Uskl:rk:4:pf:0

Faenor

Stig Jarlevik 4th February 2019 11:24

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Col/Martin

Excellent detective work. Thanks a lot.
My thinking was going along the lines now explained by Martin, but far better to let the professionals lead the way then the other way around.... :)

Cheers
Stig

Snautzer 6th February 2019 13:20

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  1. Fokker G1 German markings https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...WZM:rk:20:pf:0
  2. Fokker G1 German markings https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...WYo:rk:47:pf:0
  3. Petlyakov-Pe-8 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...W0m:rk:15:pf:0

Peter T 12th February 2019 19:16

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/WWII-Royal-A...oXi:rk:50:pf:0

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Flugzeug-Ble...uga:rk:45:pf:0

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Zerstor...rzO:rk:32:pf:0

Snautzer 15th February 2019 13:40

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  1. Hurricane captured on display in German town. https://www.ebay.de/itm/MD314-Foto-W...frcectupt=true
  2. Hurricane captured desert droptanks https://www.ebay.de/itm/MD322-Foto-W...Vxx:rk:17:pf:0

Tony Kambic 15th February 2019 15:30

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Hurricane captured on display in German town. https://www.ebay.de/itm/MD314-Foto-W...frcectupt=true

Interesting how cleanly the prop blades appear to be cut.

Tony

Snautzer 16th February 2019 12:59

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  1. Wellington ditched Aalborg https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-WW2-US...UAAOSwV0NcUTqx


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