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Jochen Prien 16th June 2022 17:46

JFV 15/I
 
Gentlemen,

after a seemingly endless string of problems Jörg Rogge has given the "go " for Vol. 15/I to the printers - only to learn that there will have to be another delay as the staff of the printers have caught Covid and are out of action for the time being. The current schedule is that delivery of the new Voilume will start in 4 weeks from now, hopefully.

In the meantime Vol 15/II is in the process of proof-reading and corrections and will be ready for the publisher before the end of the year. Work on Vol 16 has begun which means that after 23 years of work on the JFV series at last there is a faint light at the end of the tunnel. I have yet to decide how exactly the final part will be presented and it looks that although it will cover only little over 4 months it will comprise at least 2 volumes. However this can be determined only when the compilation of the source material has been finished which is still a way to go.

KR

Jochen Prien

edwest2 18th July 2022 21:12

Re: JFV 15/I
 
Available sometime this month.

https://www.christian-schmidt.com/pr...ducts_id=11142

Usual disclaimer,
Ed

John Manrho 27th July 2022 11:33

Re: JFV 15/I
 
I received my copy yesterday. Again a big volume with a lot of data and also some new pictures. I think anyone really interested in the Jagdwaffe cannot do without these volumes.

Regards John

FalkeEins 15th August 2022 16:31

Re: JFV 15/I
 
"...another 500-page tome from the Prien team filled with exceptionally detailed data from sources most of us are never likely to see and some 240 rare photographs..."

..the word 'review' doesn't really do these volumes justice but more here

edwest2 15th August 2022 19:34

Re: JFV 15/I
 
Neil,

Someone should make some comments. A listing of contents is helpful but a bit more is appreciated.

Best,
Ed

FalkeEins 16th August 2022 14:34

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Ed,

thanks... the 7-8 paragraphs I put together there were primarily based on a quick read through of the chapter devoted to I./JG 51 and picking out a few interesting things. Otherwise I don't really know what to say, other than get a copy while/if you can, but then its a little late in the day to be saying that. The amount of text/data in a volume like this (these) is frankly mind-boggling. I don't know how the authors do it or even how they manage to organise themselves, let alone the material...FWIW partial answer here though

edwest2 16th August 2022 18:30

Re: JFV 15/I
 
Neil,

I have been involved in massive research projects but they were brief when compared to this. Such mountains are built a piece at a time. Yes, those who want information like this should buy the books sooner rather than later. The vultures on the so-called secondary market are looking forward to the conclusion of this series so they can arbitrarily raise prices.

Example: I purchased a World War II history book on an unrelated subject for $30. It shot up to $300 before slowly settling back down to around $30. Like the JaPo books, I am certain that the price will go up and people will be asking 'where I can get this information for less' at a not too distant date in the future.

Best,
Ed

Steve Coates 17th August 2022 11:16

Re: JFV 15/I
 
At this stage, the people buying these books have a very good idea of what they are in for and are unlikely to be guided by reviews.

As with Neil, I am hugely in awe of the productivity in evidence here.

edwest2 17th August 2022 18:23

Re: JFV 15/I
 
Steve,

Good point. However, I need to point out that the research community here consists of words and terms that would be unknown to the newcomer. In order for this hobby, and I use the term loosely, to survive, a new generation of enthusiasts needs to be created. And book promotion is a constant, ongoing thing. I have been in book publishing for better than 40 years. After I'm gone, or anyone else here, then what? We have to think long-term.

Ask yourself: How did I first find out about this? A magazine article, a model kit or a book? Now, no thanks to the internet, too much is floating around in the ether. Invisible. And what about the LEMB or LWAG? Gone as far as any newcomer would know. They never existed. I can still log into the LEMB and there's a lot of good information there but it no longer exists for all intents and purposes outside of a relatively small circle.

Book promotion occurs weekly where I work. We have a large mailing list and must keep our readers/buyers engaged on a regular basis. It must be done. Again, no thanks to the internet, other shiny new things might distract our readers.

Best,
Ed

Steve Coates 18th August 2022 00:39

Re: JFV 15/I
 
Ed

I appreciate the point but it's a whole darn sight easier now than it was when I started. Just finding like-minded folk was a real undertaking in the 1980s never mind teaching oneself how to go about serious research with bugger all guidance. Things have moved on since then.

Inevitably, people will have a jumping on point (whenever they start) but if they are serious enough about things, they will find a way to build up their knowledge and understanding. Anyone new to the hobby must be prepared to put the hours in as the Internet certainly isn't going to provide it all. Only nothing is for nothing.

Steve


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