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Revi16

11th October 2017 20:59

Re: Unknown Bomb or Weapon Switch/Lever - Thoughts?

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Originally Posted by ChrisMAg2 (Post 240992)

I found an image that might be showing this device on a MG15:
The image is from: http://www.germanluftwaffe.com/archi...%20189%204.jpg

Hi-rez pic of above.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/32/61...d3eb69ce7b.jpg

Snautzer

11th October 2017 21:56

Re: Unknown Bomb or Weapon Switch/Lever - Thoughts?

This comes very close

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stephen f. polyak

11th October 2017 21:58

Re: Unknown Bomb or Weapon Switch/Lever - Thoughts?

Might it allow the weapon to be fired remotely, or clear a jam? Just a guess. What does the product sheet above indicate?

Snautzer

11th October 2017 22:13

Re: Unknown Bomb or Weapon Switch/Lever - Thoughts?

Electric safty for firing or better accidental firing of the gun,

edwest2

12th October 2017 04:22

Re: Unknown Bomb or Weapon Switch/Lever - Thoughts?

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Originally Posted by ChrisMAg2 (Post 240987)

I just found out what the second logo is. Actually both logos belong together:

LGW = Luftfahrtgerätewerk Hakenfelde G.m.b.H., Berlin-Spandau. LGW was part of the Siemens group of companies/ consortium and were producing built in measuring instruments, shunt-field-relayes, switches, amplifiers etc.. In ww2 LGW was producing exclusively for the Luftwaffe.

Thank you.

Ed

edwest2

12th October 2017 04:30

Re: Unknown Bomb or Weapon Switch/Lever - Thoughts?

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Originally Posted by Snautzer (Post 240997)

This comes very close

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The 'pistol grip' in the original photo does not appear to be there in the sheet you provided.

Ed

edwest2

12th October 2017 04:49

Re: Unknown Bomb or Weapon Switch/Lever - Thoughts?

I did some research on the MG 15 and could find no reference to electrical attachments. It appears it did not need electricity to fire and the design does not appear to be one that required an electrical safety device. The same can be said of the MG 17, but this MG was belt-fed.

Ed

edwest2

12th October 2017 04:59

Re: Unknown Bomb or Weapon Switch/Lever - Thoughts?

Quote:

Originally Posted by stephen f. polyak (Post 240998)

Might it allow the weapon to be fired remotely, or clear a jam? Just a guess. What does the product sheet above indicate?

Firing by remote? An interesting idea but that means some unknown attachment point other than the trigger itself that would cause it to fire, and how could it be sighted in? Locked directly forward like an MG used on a fighter?

Ed

ChrisMAg2

12th October 2017 05:12

Re: Unknown Bomb or Weapon Switch/Lever - Thoughts?

Ed,
I think, there is a misunderstanding here. This is not a (remote) firing device. It is itself an electric safety switch and seems to be attached to the cocking lever. If power is provided, "safety" is on and the cocking lever cannot be pulled. If no power is provided, "safety" is off and the cocking lever can be pulled. Or vice versa, as described in the data sheet for the ESi17.
Now, why there is such a device on or for a machine gun at all, that is a totaly different question. Maybe indeed -as Snautzer suggested- as a device to prevent accidental/ unintentional or uncontrolled fireing.

Snautzer

12th October 2017 07:28

Re: Unknown Bomb or Weapon Switch/Lever - Thoughts?

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Originally Posted by edwest2 (Post 241005)

The 'pistol grip' in the original photo does not appear to be there in the sheet you provided.

Ed

Thats because this is for mg17, so changes would be to expect.

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