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NUPPOL 12th June 2013 19:31

BF 110 VK+KL wrecked
 
http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org...recks-w18.html

History?

Norbert Schuchbauer 12th June 2013 20:18

Re: BF 110 VK+KL wrecked
 
VQ+KL?

John Vasco 13th June 2013 01:46

Re: BF 110 VK+KL wrecked
 
It's a 'G' variant.

RT 13th June 2013 12:41

Re: BF 110 VK+KL wrecked
 
Wn 5338, hv to to with NJG6 in feb. 44

RT 13th June 2013 12:43

Re: BF 110 VK+KL wrecked
 
6 2 44 1 NJG6 H Pruntrut b,Basel SCHWEIZ BA ver, BM BF110G-4/F 5338 VQ+KL


Rémi

RT 13th June 2013 12:46

Re: BF 110 VK+KL wrecked
 
QI forget to add the crew,

Achterberg günter ge,akt, bf kg zgk 10,märz 231223-Hamburg/wilhelmsburg-114
Lange bruno ltn,tr,o f kg zgk 10,märz 080524-Stettin-238


Ü,führ,fl,-19h10-zgk mit besatz,johnen 220544

Rémi

Jim P. 18th June 2013 01:53

Re: BF 110 VK+KL wrecked
 
WNr. 5338 or 5538? I have the latter recorded in my DB.

Bf 110G-4, 5538, Langer, Ltn. Bruno, , I., 1., NJG 6, , VQ+KL, VQ+KL, , 06-Feb-44, Bauchlandung due to fuel shortage after F became disoriented. Crew interned., Apparently aircraft returned!! WNr. 5338, 'VK+KL' per Kock., Nachtjagd, Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, p.213; Kock, Das Kriegstagebuch des NJG6, p.42; Menke, SKZ list, , 1.5km nordwestlich Pruntrut bei Basel, Schweiz, 100%, H, Bf Gefr. Günter Achterberg, 19.10,

RT 18th June 2013 13:59

Re: BF 110 VK+KL wrecked
 
On the NVM , some hand writing indicate clearly the 5338, from where comes your 5538 Jim ??
The STKZ compares favourably with known series for the 5338, for the 5538 no !

Rémi

Jim P. 25th June 2013 00:13

Re: BF 110 VK+KL wrecked
 
I have 5 entries for Bf 110 WNr. 5338 and 5538. Obviously at least one of them is wrong and I need to sort them out. Oishh - looks like Koch was probably correct.

Bf 110G-4, 5338, n.n., , I., I., NJG 1, , , VQ+KL, , 01-Jul-43, Bauchlandung due to enemy fire., , Lw.Bfh.Mitte/Nachtjagd, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.19; Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, II, p.158, http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org...recks-w18.html, Fl.Pl. Gilze-Rijen, 15%, F, , ,
Bf 110G-4, 5338, n.n., , I., 2., NJG 1, , , VQ+KL, , 23-Aug-43, Own Flak., , Lw.Bfh.Mitte/Nachtjagd, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.20; Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, II, p.192, http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org...recks-w18.html, Werneuchen, 40%, F, , ,
Bf 110G-4, 5538, n.n., , I., I., NJG 3, , , VQ+KL, , 24-Aug-43, Enemy fire., , Nachtjagd, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.20; Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, II, p.193; Menke, SKZ list, , Perleberg, 15%, F, , ,
Bf 110G-4, 5538, Schuster, Gefr. Walter, , I., 3., NJG 3, , , VQ+KL, , 28-Apr-44, Caught by searchlight at 7000m and attacked by enemy intruder. Crew FSA, F & Bs WIA., 27/28-Apr per Balss., Nachtjagd, Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, p.264; Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, II, p.325; Höhler, Deutsche Nachtjagd Personalverluste, p.68; Menke, SKZ list, , Moers bei Krefeld, 100%, F, Bf Gefr. Richard Mrosik & Bs Ogefr. Karl Lüttmann, 02.30,
Bf 110G-4, 5538, Langer, Ltn. Bruno, , I., 1., NJG 6, , VQ+KL, VQ+KL, , 06-Feb-44, Bauchlandung due to fuel shortage due to disorientation. Crew interned., Apparently aircraft returned!! WNr. 5338, 'VK+KL' per Kock., Nachtjagd, Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, p.213; Kock, Das Kriegstagebuch des NJG6, p.42; Menke, SKZ list, , 1.5km nordwestlich Pruntrut bei Basel, Schweiz, 100%, H, Bf Gefr. Günter Achterberg, 19.10,

TigerTimon 12th April 2021 17:31

Re: BF 110 VK+KL wrecked
 
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Originally Posted by Jim P. (Post 168575)
Bf 110G-4, 5538, Schuster, Gefr. Walter, , I., 3., NJG 3, , , VQ+KL, , 28-Apr-44, Caught by searchlight at 7000m and attacked by enemy intruder. Crew FSA, F & Bs WIA., 27/28-Apr per Balss., Nachtjagd, Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, p.264; Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, II, p.325; Höhler, Deutsche Nachtjagd Personalverluste, p.68; Menke, SKZ list, , Moers bei Krefeld, 100%, F, Bf Gefr. Richard Mrosik & Bs Ogefr. Karl Lüttmann, 02.30,


Currently, Michael Balss is of the opinion this loss took place on the 27th of April (because of the date on the Namentliche Verlustmeldung attached).


This loss may relate to a claim of a 100 Group Mosquito of 239 Squadron which dispatched an 'Me 110' in the Essen area at 01:50 hrs (this claim is listed in the Nachtjagd Combat Archive 1944 part two).


The latter source mentioned credits "239 Squadron Mosquito DZ309 in the hands of F/Os Depper and Follis" with the kill but on the 28th of April at 02:07 hrs...


Now, I don't know which date exactly is correct. Who knows more?


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