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jim norton 19th January 2018 15:32

B-17 kiel raid 1943
 
hi,

six machines were lost on the mission to kiel on 19.5.43. one b-17 crashed at nuechel south-east of kiel. does anybody has further data of this machine? three of the crew were dead, the rest left the plane in the air.

all the best
jim

Rottler 19th January 2018 17:47

Re: B-17 kiel raid 1943
 
Hi Jim,

this machine was the B-17 F-27-BO 41-24624
305th BG, 366th BS, KY-J, nickname „Madame Butterfly“.
Capt Charles D. Clark crew, MACR 15549.

Crash location – two divergent informations:

1 MACR 15549 (taken from SR&D #820)
The above plane participated in a mission to Kiel, Germany on 19 May 1943 and was attacked by an enemy airplane as it proceeded to the northward of Kiel and it was seen to make a steep dive and hit the water as it passed over the entrance to Kiel Horbor.

2 MACR list May 1943
19 May 1943 1330 hrs B-17 F 41-24624 East of Nüchel over Eutin East Holstein

Regards
Leo

jim norton 20th January 2018 12:17

Re: B-17 kiel raid 1943
 
hi leo,

thanks a lot! do you know what happened to the crew? and why are there two different crash sites?

all the best
jim

Rottler 20th January 2018 16:14

Re: B-17 kiel raid 1943
 
Hi Jim,

here are some additions and corrections:

according to Dave Osbourne’s Master Log this plane originally was assigned to 305th BG, 366th BS (KY-J) and later transferred to the 422nd BS , code JJ-J.
The MACR 15549 - from 1946 - relates to the crew, so on 19 May 1943 a 366th BS crew flew an aircraft of the 422nd BS.

The nickname of the 41-24624 was „Madame Betterfly“, not „Madame Butterfly“.

The crew:
Pilot Capt Charles D Clark POW
Co-pilot 2nd Lt Robert L Ruse POW
Navigator 2nd Lt John J Ward POW
Bombardier 2nd Lt Charles R Woodworth POW
Flight Engineer/Top Turret Gunner T/Sgt Everett A Howard POW
Radio Operator T/Sgt Kenneth W Baldridge POW
Right Waist Gunner S/Sgt Kenneth L Edwards KIA
Left Waist Gunner S/Sgt Louis P Haviland KIA
Tail Gunner S/Sgt Lewis F Clayton POW
Ball Turret Gunner S/Sgt Earl H Rheinhardt KIA.

The crash location Nüchel stems from a German loss report (Luftgau report) referenced by the number 111334, the microfilm frame number of a captured German document.

Regards
Leo

jim norton 22nd January 2018 11:00

Re: B-17 kiel raid 1943
 
hi leo,

that`s interesting. so the usaf thought that the b-17 ditched into the harbour? but the german report must be right...

allt he best
jim


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