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Alex Smart 4th October 2020 17:51

Deaths of four POW's
 
Hello,

Anyone know the details of the deaths of these four Pow's.
Was their deaths due to the a/c crashing, or were they wounded in combat prior to the a/c crashing. Or were they killed after becoming Pow's ?

They were -
BARTMANN, Jack Cpl - 32883370 - died April 22nd, 1945.
BOSTON, Joseph W. Jr - 2Lt. - O-667927 - died February 13th 1944.
CALKINS, Robert H. 2Lt. - O-729603 - died May 24th, 1943.
COONEY, Andrew J. 1Lt. - O-927864 - died February 28th, 1945.

Thank you
Alex

kaki3152 4th October 2020 18:19

Re: Deaths of four POW's
 
Lt. Robert H. Calkins was the co-pilot of B-17F,42-5377, 341st BS, 97 BG shot down on April 26,1943 by AA on an attack on Grosetto A/F. The entire crew was KIA. His later death date indicates that he was wounded (possibly bailed out) and Died of Wounds on May 24,1943.

Sean Welch 4th October 2020 18:59

Re: Deaths of four POW's
 
Jack Bartmann, baled out of B-17G # 44-6861, 483BG/840BS 20/4/1945, died 22/4/1945.
Casualty Questionnaires in MACR 13817 states that he was beaten by civilians and shot by a German civilian in Lauregno, South Tirol, Italy.

Joseph Boston, B-25D # 41-30386 340BG/487BS
Andrew Cooney, B-24H # 42-95313 457BG/747BS

RSwank 4th October 2020 19:33

Re: Deaths of four POW's
 
I set up a shared Google drive folder several years ago about the crash of the plane Jack Bartman was on and wrote up a description of what happened to the crew (including Bartman). I even found photo of the plane moments after it was hit.

Here is a link to part of that folder.


https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...2M?usp=sharing

You may find it interesting.

Alex Smart 4th October 2020 22:25

Re: Deaths of four POW's
 
Thank you all for your excellent response's.
Just what I was looking for.
Had seen one story of a war crime and looks like it was Bartmann ?

Out of interest was it Bartman or Bartmann ?
Enlistment shows Bartman.
POW list Shows Bartmann, ( 2enteries ?).
Thank you ,
Alex

RSwank 5th October 2020 00:13

Re: Deaths of four POW's
 
Alex, His IDPF file shows him as Jack Bartman, ASN: 32883370. All the correspondence to the family lists him as Bartman.

Alex Smart 5th October 2020 13:11

Re: Deaths of four POW's
 
Thank you Rolland, keep safe

RSwank 11th June 2021 18:47

Re: Deaths of four POW's
 
An extensive post about Jack Bartman and what happened to him.

http://theyweresoldiers.com/index.ph...april-20-1945/

Alex Smart 11th June 2021 22:47

Re: Deaths of four POW's
 
Many thanks Rolland,


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