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BOBO_JG300 11th January 2016 09:25

Westland Whirlwind P7005 picture
 
In WWW I found a eBay-picture from Westland Whirlwind (Serial P7005) crash landing. I search the serial number P7005 (H O SF) and found a little loss list:

Whirlwind P6966 unearthed by Steve Vizard in 1970's ?
Whirlwind P6967 scrapped on 4th November 1944 ?
Whirlwind P6968 Wearing code H-HE 1941
Whirlwind P6969 First fatality due to E/A P/O Graham 1940 V-HE
Whirlwind P6970 Lost in sweep 6th November 1941 ?
Whirlwind P6971 Scrapped 14th July 1944 ?
Whirlwind P6972 Scrapped September 1944 ?
Whirlwind P6973 Scrapped October 25th 1942 ?
Whirlwind P6974 Struck off October 22nd 1943 Z-HE
Whirlwind P6975 Crashed December 27th 1940 L-HE
Whirlwind P6976 Crashed May 11th 1943 X-HE
Whirlwind P6977 Lost in Action November 11th 1942 ?
Whirlwind P6978 Crashed December 27th 1940 ?
Whirlwind P6979 Hit by Flak October 24th 1943 G-HEWhirlwind P6980 Hit Sea December 12th 1940 ?
Whirlwind P6981 Crash land August 1st 1943 ?
Whirlwind P6982 Scrapped September 30th 1944 S-SF
Whirlwind P6983 Scrapped July 14th 1944 H-HE & P-SF
Whirlwind P6984 Write off January 29th 1941 H-HE
Whirlwind P6985 Write off March 24th 1941 1942 J-HE
Whirlwind P6986 ?
Whirlwind P6987 Hit by Flak December 7th 1942 Jersey?
Whirlwind P6988 Write off March 14th 1941 ?
Whirlwind P6989 Hit by Do-215 April1st 1941 J-HE
Whirlwind P6990 Write off November 19th 1943?
Whirlwind P6991 Scrapped February 9th 1943 R-HE
Whirlwind P6992 ? L-HE
Whirlwind P6993 Write off 22nd June 1943 S-HE C-HE A-SF
Whirlwind P6994 Shipped to U.S.A June 5th1942 overall Dk Blue RAF rndls
Whirlwind P6995 Hit by Flak April 17th 1943 ?
Whirlwind P6996 Crashed September 15th 1941 ?
Whirlwind P6997 Scrapped September 30th 1944 ?
Whirlwind P6998 Crash land December 22nd1942 ? Lympne
Whirlwind P6999 Mid Air Crash October 9th 1941 ?
Whirlwind P7000 Hit by Flak June 15th 1943 ?
Whirlwind P7001 Shot Down September 10th 1941
Whirlwind P7002 Ditched April 4th 1943 W-SF
Whirlwind P7003 Crashed September 21st 1942 ?
Whirlwind P7004 Struck off October 5th1942 ?
Whirlwind P7005 Missing E/A? March 2nd 1943 ?
Whirlwind P7006 Crashed May 29th 1941 ?
Whirlwind P7007 Scrapped September 30th 1944?
Whirlwind P7008 Structural crash April 30th 1941 ?

Has anyone more infos about this P7005 and more about the crash landing?


http://www.imgbox.de/users/kukki/Beu...lwindP7005.JPG

smokie 11th January 2016 11:10

Re: Westland Whirlwind P7005 picture
 
Hello All,

I know my eyesight is not what it used to be but could this possibly be P7095 instead of P7005?

If P7095 details are: To 51 MTU 21/07/41 - To 137 Sqn 22/06/42 as SF-H.
FTR from Sweep,Crashed near Doullen - Sgt.Brown Killed.

Details for P7005: To 39 MU 03/03/41 - To 263 Sqn15/04/41.Returned to works for repair twice during service with 263 Sqn.To 48 MU 06/01/42.To 137 Sqn 08/03/42 - 4 x ROS's with 137 Sqn before FTR from Ops 02/03/43 - Sgt Walker missing.

All Details taken from "Whirlwind" by Victor Bingham.Best Regards Keith.

AndyMa 7th December 2022 13:08

Re: Westland Whirlwind P7005 picture
 
Unearthing an old thread, Ed West's latest Ebay post includes one of SF-H:
https://www.ebay.de/itm/175521936656...item28ddec3510
It sure looks like P7005 to me.

paulmcmillan 7th December 2022 15:22

Re: Westland Whirlwind P7005 picture
 
Agreed P7005

Stig Jarlevik 7th December 2022 15:25

Re: Westland Whirlwind P7005 picture
 
In the past this aircraft has been identified as P7095 (see Crawford/Listemann Allied Wings No 4)

The problem is that both P7095 and P7005 carried the same code SF-H and on top were lost very close
together.
P7095 23 Jan 1943
P7005 2 March 1943

However the pilot of P7095 is listed as KIA while the pilot of P7005 is listed as POW.
To me the photo shows a very credible landing which in my book you could walk away from any day in
the week!
So I agree with Andy and think this actually is P7005 and not P7095

Cheers
Stig

Chris Goss 7th December 2022 18:07

Re: Westland Whirlwind P7005 picture
 
P7095/H came down near Doullens 23 January 1943, pilot killed.
P7005/H missing 2 Mar 43.


The photo shows P7095 according to Bowater's book on the Whirlwind. Damage on this aircraft is consistent with Brown's last radio message but his death is a mystery as his body, initially identified as Sgt Manston, was exhumed near Amiens-Glisy 40 miles from the crash site after the war

Stig Jarlevik 7th December 2022 20:26

Re: Westland Whirlwind P7005 picture
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Goss (Post 324973)
P7095/H came down near Doullens 23 January 1943, pilot killed.
P7005/H missing 2 Mar 43.


The photo shows P7095 according to Bowater's book on the Whirlwind. Damage on this aircraft is consistent with Brown's last radio message but his death is a mystery as his body, initially identified as Sgt Manston, was exhumed near Amiens-Glisy 40 miles from the crash site after the war

Yes everyone has in the past identified this aircraft as P7095 but I still believe it
was P7005 unless Brown broke
his neck getting out or was shot trying to escape.

B Rgds
Stig

Bertrand H 7th December 2022 21:05

Re: Westland Whirlwind P7005 picture
 
Yes Andy, Stig and Paul is the P7005 at 300% !

Just put the photo in negative and everything is clear....

paulmcmillan 7th December 2022 23:57

Re: Westland Whirlwind P7005 picture
 
I think we can close this mystery as solved at last !

Stig Jarlevik 8th December 2022 00:09

Re: Westland Whirlwind P7005 picture
 
Ha ha Bertrand

That was a good one:D
Wish I knew how to do that.....:o

Cheers
Stig


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