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Karoband 6th July 2018 22:13

Luftwaffe claim locations determined by Y- and Egon-Messung?
 
Good evening,

The only actual Luftwaffe claim documents I have seen were those of Fw. Karl-Heinz Becker presented by Andreas Zapf in his on-line essay on the 10./NJG 11 of 2014.

Apparently, accompanying the filled-in claim form entitled "Abschussmeldung, Zerstorungsmeldung" each pilot wrote a brief performa Gefechtsbericht (Battle report).

From Becker's Battle Report for the daylight claim on 15.2.45, (Zapf, p. 72):

"… Nach Y-Messung erfolgte der Abschuss im Planquadrat KG6 um 15.46 U".


From Becker's Battle Reports for the following night claims:

21.3.45 (Zapf, p.96):

"… Der Angfriff erfolgte nach Egon-Messung im Planquadrat GG5/6."

23.3.45 (Zapf, p.99):

"… Der Abschuss erfolgte in 8000 m im Scheinwerfer. Der Standort nach Egon-Messung war GG2 um 23.50 Uhr von der 1.J.D."

23.3.45 (Zapf, p. 100) second claim:
"Der Standort nach Egon-Messung war FG8 um 23.53 Uhr von der 1. Jagddivision"

My questions are:

1. How were the locations determined?

2. When was this technology first used for claims?

3. After introduction, was this technology used on all Luftwaffe aircraft?

Thanks in advance,

Jim

SES 7th July 2018 15:02

Re: Luftwaffe claim locations determined by Y- and Egon-Messung?
 
Hi,
As it says in your German quote the position was determined by the ground station.
For further info on Y and EGON control please see:
http://www.gyges.dk/Jargerleit%20Stellungen.htm
please note four parts.
bregds
SES

Karoband 8th July 2018 18:15

Re: Luftwaffe claim locations determined by Y- and Egon-Messung?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SES (Post 254466)
Hi,
As it says in your German quote the position was determined by the ground station.
SES

Thank you, SES. I am still curious as to how individual claim locations were determined by ground stations.

best regards,

Jim

SES 8th July 2018 21:38

Re: Luftwaffe claim locations determined by Y- and Egon-Messung?
 
Hi,
The ground station controls the fighter, when the pilot makes a claim the station knows the exact position.
To understand the full procedure you need to read the four parts I provided a link to.
bregds
SES


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