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Pilot 5th October 2011 19:21

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Some info about color changes:

http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/f...2766/#msg22766

Oberst 5th October 2011 21:16

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heres the one I usually follow, from Claes Sundin (RLM chips, I highly recommend buying all his books) the colour foto of the G-10 tail is very interesting also:

veltro 5th October 2011 21:59

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I'm glad that you posted that fantastic colour slide of the tail of an Erla G-10 because that - to me - was the proof that the colour combination 75/83 (or 82) was used.

Beware however that the rudder colors does not mean nothing Erla-wise, because the rudder (and often also the whole fixed vertical part of the tail) were produced and painted directly as sub-assembled parts by external firms, which could well have RLM 83 available instead...

Such rudder however proves clearly (IMHO) that the couple of gray-green colors were used before or together with the 81/82 (or 83) pair as visible on other rudders.

What is fundamental is that Rasmussen could enlight us on what RLM colors (useable as camouflage ones) were available at Erla, because to be able to say what wasn't there, you should clearly know what was there... ;)

Marc-André Haldimann 5th October 2011 22:20

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Hi there Oberst and Veltro,

Just as a follow up, W.Nr. 491 300 was photographed 14 April 1945 at Gardelegen. This is a detail of pic published in LiF 2, p. 34. It was taken whilst US 3d Army troops were battling Luftwaffe personnel entrenched in the forest on the opposite side of the airport.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...57625208099917

Cheers
Marc

Oberst 5th October 2011 22:48

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The colour above the "43" always intruiged me. Its almost an aqua-marine colour, I've seen it used in several Claes Sundin profiles including Me109G-10 W.Nr.130 297. Seems to be a variation of RLM 76. Would this be correct? Included is a digitaly enhanced copy of the colour slide.

ouidjat 6th October 2011 15:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cpt_Farrel (Post 135133)
For comparison I did another profile for my blog based on a photo found at Neil Pages blog a long time ago. The photo depicts the right hand side of an Erla built G-10 and shows what could be a camoflagepattern that would fit nicely with the one seen on the left hand side of the "Grafenwöhr G-10".

Now I'll quit hi-jacking this thread, sorry... Got carried away. :)

http://www.cptfarrels.com/blog/Bf109...0JG11_1024.jpg

Hello,

Hello,

A simple question (To all, not only Anders): So on Erla build G-10s there was an Half-moon link between fuselage and cowling on right side???

Thanks for your help.

Cheers, Franck.

Pilot 6th October 2011 15:47

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Quote:

So on Erla build G-10s there was an Half-moon link between fuselage and cowling on right side???
Yes And flat line connection on port side. There is many images which confirm this... Also there is other differences, like small blister on the top wings (not extended one as on others G-10), no blisters at the nose side...

Oberst 6th October 2011 22:09

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As far as I know, there was only the Type 100 & 110 cowls, and the Ultra rare cowl which was used on some G-5/6 AS's.

ChristianK 6th October 2011 23:23

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Sorry for another Off Topic, but can someone point me to the reference photo for the Bf 109 in post #76 please? I just cannot find it anywhere..

Also, I cannot access a single of your links, Marc. Have you had any copyright complaints in the meantime?

Regards,
Christian

Marc-André Haldimann 6th October 2011 23:47

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Hallo Christian,

Sorry for your first request: I don't know the picture source for "Schwarze 17"... Srecko might provide this information.

As for accessing the pics, people from Germany obviously do have an issue: you're the third to ask me about this access problem. On my side, all pics are free to view. Falcon managed to access at last my photo stream. He managed it by creating a new Flickr ID. Hopefully, it works for you too...

And so far, no complaints received. In the contrary, some very encouraging help for improving this database. Looking forward to have yours too;-))

Cheers
Marc


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