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Marc-André Haldimann 16th October 2011 00:33

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by veltro (Post 135838)
Correction duly noted. Thanks as always, Jörg.

Then, I would bet on 464 606...BTW also the style of the white spiral on the spinner is typical of Bf 109G-14s of that batch...(I have seen only now the two other frontal shots).

Pity that the nose oil filler hatch can't be seen clearly, because I would bet this aircraft belongs to those G-14s fitted with the bigger oil nose tank (from "horseshoe" shape to annular one) and thus had the "higher" placed one, like on G-10s and K-4s.


Jörg and Ferdinando,

All my thanks for correcting and narrowing down the W.Nr. range. It is much appreciated. You are duly credited in the stream, as Peter, from LEMB who tracked the original site harboring this set of three pictures (http://www.stalag18a.org.uk/)

Srecko, looking forward for your profile.
Oberst, your info is very interesting. May I ask for your source?

Cheers
Marc

Oberst 16th October 2011 01:20

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1 Attachment(s)
kinda looks like this one:

Marc-André Haldimann 16th October 2011 11:46

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Hallo Oberst,

Excellent picture! Is the place and date known?

Cheers
Marc

veltro 16th October 2011 11:54

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberst (Post 135850)
kinda looks like this one:

This looks much more like a late Bf 109G-6 from MTT Regensburg, IMHO.

BTW, speaking of the Erla G-14 we have discussed so far, looking more closely at it, I'm more and more convinced its W.Nr. is 464 609...

Marc-André Haldimann 16th October 2011 13:32

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Ferdinando,

I played along with what my Mac can give as picture edition; the result is clearer then I would have expected: xx4 609 is clearly to be seen. The second digit might be a 6 and the first is lost forever... Thus W.Nr. (4)64 609 is the best match.


Thanks for checking it over;-))
Marc

Pilot 16th October 2011 13:49

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Well.... finding or the image owner and high resolution scan would be even greater. Who is owner?

Peter D Evans 16th October 2011 14:10

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Why not drop the webmaster of the link provide by Marc in post #161 Srecko?

Incidentally, rather than personally take credit for providing this link, as can be seen in the link provided by Christian in post #148, it was LEMB member Richard502 who originally posted a direct link back in April'10...

Cheers
Peter D Evans
LEMB Administrator

Marc-André Haldimann 16th October 2011 14:30

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter D Evans (Post 135867)
Why not drop the webmaster of the link provide by Marc in post #161 Srecko?

Incidentally, rather than personally take credit for providing this link, as can be seen in the link provided by Christian in post #148, it was LEMB member Richard502 who originally posted a direct link back in April'10...

Cheers
Peter D Evans
LEMB Administrator

Done, with thanks to all!

Cheers
Marc

Pilot 16th October 2011 14:39

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Peter- this topic become huge and simply I can not trace all post here. At least I am not responsible for any content or material post here so I see no problem if I ask for optional info.

Thank you for attention anyway :)

veltro 16th October 2011 14:51

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I guess that the best way should be to contact Ian Brown, curator of the fantastic site http://www.stalag18a.org.uk/ and ask him to get in touch with "...Kathryn Shepherd, daughter of Pte Ken Bee..." who supplied those G-14 photographs we are all interested at...

Don't know if this is the fastest route, but is undoubtedly the more correct one.

Pilot 16th October 2011 14:54

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Way to go- thank you Veltro :)

Marc-André Haldimann 16th October 2011 14:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilot (Post 135869)
Peter- this topic become huge and simply I can not trace all post here. At least I am not responsible for any content or material post here so I see no problem if I ask for optional info.

Thank you for attention anyway :)

No worries, Srecko;

Peter was only bringing back to our quite over flooded memory the topic on LEMB which ChristianK already brought back to our attention in post 148.

As for the huge quantity of information, maybe we could keep a better track by splitting it in four main sections:

G-6
G-14
G-10
K-4

What do you think, Ruy?

Cheers
Marc

Peter D Evans 16th October 2011 15:23

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilot (Post 135869)
Peter- this topic become huge and simply I can not trace all post here. At least I am not responsible for any content or material post here so I see no problem if I ask for optional info.

What a ridiculous comment, what was my post trying to do? I am sorry... I won't bother in future...

Cheers
Peter D Evans
LEMB Administrator

Pilot 16th October 2011 15:26

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No bother at all Peter

Marc-André Haldimann 16th October 2011 15:56

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Hi there gang;

I updated the photo stream with following W.Nr.'s:

Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 33 085
Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 140 ..0
Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 160 072
Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 160 242

Bf 109 G-8 W.Nr. 200 046

Cheers
Marc

Oberst 16th October 2011 16:04

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 135857)
Hallo Oberst,

Excellent picture! Is the place and date known?

Cheers
Marc

No date or place are known. the source of this foto was the internet, but I finally tracked it to SAM Modellers Datafile 10 - Messerschmitt Bf 109 pt2. F to K variants. Page 69. no source givin there either. But, its a book that I now own. Some very nice colour fotos some of which I never seen before.

veltro 16th October 2011 17:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter D Evans (Post 135873)
What a ridiculous comment, what was my post trying to do? I am sorry... I won't bother in future...

Peter, if I may dare, there are clearly communication problems between you and Srecko, maybe due also to his not native English...

IMHO it could be of great help if you both would exchange directly in PM to clear things. Only an opinion and please forgive the intermission.

Peter D Evans 16th October 2011 23:26

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All sorted now chaps :) Moral of the story, always take into consideration that English is not the mother tongue of everybody who posts, that way misunderstandings like this are less likely to happen... (thanks also to those who got involved outside of the forum... you know who you are)

Now back to the discussion...

The caption to the photo in post #152 simply states that these Bf109G-6's or Bf109G-14's possibly belonged to a Jagdfliegerschule and that the yellow band after of the balkenkreuz became an identification device for all training units...

Cheers
Peter D Evans
LEMB Administrator

Pilot 16th October 2011 23:39

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
:) :) :) Thank you Peter

ouidjat 17th October 2011 10:44

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 135875)
Hi there gang;

I updated the photo stream with following W.Nr.'s:

Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 33 085
Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 140 ..0
Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 160 072
Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 160 242

Bf 109 G-8 W.Nr. 200 046

Cheers
Marc

Hi Marc,

I like your thread Pal, definitly ... particularly this morning!! :D. I just had to go out of that Public Library for a while ... Well ... you know: what a beautiful day.

Tschüss, Franck.

filippo 17th October 2011 12:48

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Hi, I don't see anything. I must be logged in?
Many thanks for your help
Filippo

Marc-André Haldimann 17th October 2011 14:02

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Si Filippo.

You have to take a free flickr account. Sorry for that inconvenience.

Cheers
Marc

Marc-André Haldimann 17th October 2011 14:03

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ouidjat (Post 135907)
Hi Marc,

I like your thread Pal, definitly ... particularly this morning!! :D. I just had to go out of that Public Library for a while ... Well ... you know: what a beautiful day.

Tschüss, Franck.

Salut Franck,

Merci pour tes mots... Thanks for your words, and glad to have you back on this thread;-)) Your inputs are always welcome!

Cheers
Marc

Marc-André Haldimann 17th October 2011 17:05

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberst (Post 135876)
No date or place are known. the source of this foto was the internet, but I finally tracked it to SAM Modellers Datafile 10 - Messerschmitt Bf 109 pt2. F to K variants. Page 69. no source givin there either. But, its a book that I now own. Some very nice colour fotos some of which I never seen before.

Thanks Oberst for the reference; yes, true, Lynn Rittger did a very interesting job, with quite a lot of original material.

Cheers
Marc

filippo 17th October 2011 18:56

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Hi Marc I tried to use my google account with no results, Any hepl?
Sorry.
Best regards
Filippo

Oberst 17th October 2011 20:15

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Heres my link: G-10 let me know if you guys can view and if the info is correct.

Marc-André Haldimann 17th October 2011 20:40

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Hallo Oberst,

Password is required...

Marc

innocenti 17th October 2011 20:41

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no , private album, log in password needed
cheers Erhard

Oberst 17th October 2011 20:47

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Whoops! fixed, try it now =)

Marc-André Haldimann 17th October 2011 21:16

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Well done!

Thanks a lot Oberst!

Cheers
Marc

Oberst 17th October 2011 23:11

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Your welcome. I still have alot more to do. But hopefully our German Countrymen can see the fotos as well. Heres the link again.: G-10

Marc-André Haldimann 17th October 2011 23:29

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Gang,

I just started a new set with all Bf 109 which sub-type cannot be ascertained, at least by myself; your comments would be most welcome!

Here is the first one:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream

Beyond that, I was surprised to find out another overall RLM 76 machine here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...7625332659676/

This one was said to be found in Lechfeld; is it another 1./NJG 11 machine?

Thanks for your thoughts
Marc

Rasmussen 18th October 2011 02:35

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oberst (Post 135951)
Your welcome. I still have alot more to do. But hopefully our German Countrymen can see the fotos as well. Heres the link again.: G-10

The "W.Nr. 151 591" (#3 in the link) isn't an Erla a/c. On the tail is an 61x xxx - W.Nr.

Regards
Rasmussen

Oberst 18th October 2011 02:50

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Corrected and your credited with that correction. Thanks Rasmussen.

Marc-André Haldimann 18th October 2011 10:38

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Hi folks,

As I had a bit if "spare time" tonight, I scurried through my HD and uploaded a bounty of about 40 late war Bf 109's pics found over the years on the web; some are already published and I will fill in the caption details given time. Many are not yet, being former ebay or Tonelli auctions; their particulars are barely known. Thanks in advance for all infos/advices on all of them!

Cheers
Marc

ouidjat 18th October 2011 11:07

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 135952)
Gang,

Beyond that, I was surprised to find out another overall RLM 76 machine here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...7625332659676/

This one was said to be found in Lechfeld; is it another 1./NJG 11 machine?

Thanks for your thoughts
Marc

Hello Marc,

The picture you're talking about has been done at Bad Wörishofen (see Fl.Pl. thread's on LEMB) and the plane is coded 316 or 318. Just over-exposed!

Tschüss, Franck.

Marc-André Haldimann 18th October 2011 11:54

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Done!

Thanks Franck!
Marc

Oberst 20th October 2011 05:01

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Would anybody know the correct W.Nr. for Me 109G-10/U4 " wiesse 11 Rosemarie " of II./JG 51? And possibley the Pilots name? Thanks.

Marc-André Haldimann 20th October 2011 11:14

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Would love to know it, Oberst. Unfortunately, no clues on the photos as the WNF W.Nr. on the rudder was painted over in yellow.

Cheers
Marc

Marc-André Haldimann 20th October 2011 21:17

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Good evening Gang,

Looking for the location where W.Nr. 785 979 was depicted:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...57625414158747

Cheers
Marc


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