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Evgeny Velichko 8th July 2007 14:53

1./ZG 2 and I./ZG 2 emblems.
 
Two emblems:
"Black hand" and "Bernburger Jaeger".

Many sourses sa that:
1./ZG 2:
http://chrito.users1.50megs.com/_dat...waffe/1zg2.gif
I./ZG 2:
http://chrito.users1.50megs.com/_dat...waffe/izg2.gif

How it can be?
Bf109D-1 of Maj.Hannes Gentzen. Carry " Emblem.
http://www.old.modelarstwo.org.pl/lo...-109d-1/03.jpg

Aircraft of Gruppen Komandeur carry "1./ZG 2" emblem instead of I./ZG 2???

So, wich one was "Gruppe" emblem and wich one was "Staffel' emblem?

Christian Schulz 19th April 2008 16:41

Re: 1./ZG 2 and I./ZG 2 emblems.
 
If you want to hear my reading of all of this ...

I do think, that the "Bernburger Jäger" is the Gruppenemblem (later carried on by I./ZG 2) and the "Hand" is the Staffelemblem. There's a photo in "Die deutsche Tagjagd" on one of the first pages which shows Bf 109 D of "Jagdgruppe Bernburg" (aka I./JG 137) during war games. In the front there are several Bf 109 Ds of 1./JG 137 completely devoid of any emblems. But in the background the Bf 109s of 2./JG 137 can be seen and they carry the "Bernburger Jäger" beneath the cockpit windshield.

My 0,02 € ...

robert 19th April 2008 17:38

Re: 1./ZG 2 and I./ZG 2 emblems.
 
Evgeny,

the hand was a flight emblem.

Regards

Robert

Evgeny Velichko 19th April 2008 17:46

Re: 1./ZG 2 and I./ZG 2 emblems.
 
THX a lot gents.


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