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Chris Goss 2nd August 2018 08:14

EBay Photos -Seller Beware
 
I have just received an unhappy response from a seller of a photo because I left neutral scores. For other buyers, I will explain why so that others might wish to do the same for others as I will continue to do

He forgot to send it.
It was not original but a post war copy
The description was totally inaccurate.
His communication was poor.
The photo was damaged
The letter protection was inadequate

He was lucky not to get a negative! Others buyers should perhaps have the courage to do similarly as I am seeing more and more of similar sales. Suffice to say I will no be using him again and looking at his other neutral and negative feedbacks he deserves what he gets.

Bruce Dennis 2nd August 2018 09:08

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Quite right, Chris.
And, just to add weight to the power of feedback, while a seller can challenge a NEGATIVE and have it removed by the Ebay minions, apparantly whether they gave rubbish service or not, they do not have the right to this procedure with NEUTRAL feedback: they are stuck with it.

Bruce

RudiS 2nd August 2018 10:06

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I gave a seller negative feedback for selling me modern repros in stead of original photos and not answering me when I contacted him about this. eBay Germany removed the negative feedback. I contacted them 3 times asking why they did so and 3 times they gave me a different reason. The 4th time they didn't even bothered answering me.

So now I'm doing the same as Chris except that I also mention on the feedback page that the item was shipped too late. This might influence the sellers rate and his capability of selling items worldwide.

Red Baroness 6th August 2018 05:03

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Oooh, don't get me started on that, guys. This past year, I won a bid on some super rare Oesau pics. Guy supposedly sent them to me - well for some reason, they got stuck in Customs (so they say) or "lost" (so he said). Royal Mail couldn't find them, and when I asked the guy about it, I got the silent treatment. Thank GAWD I went thru paypal. But I won't buy from that guy ever again. Those photos are either lost or he never sent them.

Chris Goss 6th August 2018 08:55

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I have had a similar experience with a rare RK photo. Sent registered, never arrived. Seller was true to his word though & refunded me despite not accepting PayPal. It seems that people see registered, think there is something valuable in the letter & when they find it is a photo chuck the letter & contents.

Red Baroness 7th August 2018 01:23

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Yeah, that's what I think happened too. Though I DO have issue with one of the new postal workers here. Bugger tucked an important medical package under the ramp to my garage by the wheel chock I have and I didn't see it until 3 days later - in 95F heat. Thankfully, it wasn't my insulin, but it WAS a component of my meter that I had to get resent.


After the Oesau pic debacle and this package issue, I am seriously mistrustful of the post office and eBay in general.

Chris Goss 30th August 2018 08:29

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What I am also seeing are "original" photos being sold only for the same photo to be sold by the same seller again. One photo I have noticed is on its third selling. Buyer beware!

Simon Schatz 30th August 2018 13:04

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Chris, it's quite possible that not just one photograph was made from the negative.
Some years ago there was an impressive photo Album of a former Wehrmacht photographer. The photos in the Album were numbered and at the end of the Album the soldiers could order them. So sometimes lot of "wartime" copies were made.
I also have a Ju 88 photograph in my collection that was sold at Ebay some years later after I have bought it.

Chris Goss 30th August 2018 17:32

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Agreed but the same seller to have 3 photos and describing them as original? Post-war copy from the negative yes but original in the true sense no

RudiS 31st August 2018 00:17

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If the same photo was indeed sold 3 times then there are several possibilities. The most obvious one is that the seller is taking modern reproductions and makes them look old to sell them as original wartime prints.
But it's also possible that:
- the seller bought a lot of photos who belonged to the same serviceman who happened to have 3 wartime prints made from the same negative
- the seller didn't get paid the first 2 times the photo was sold
- the seller is using another account to increase the price of the photo (shill bidding) but he ended up buying his own photo twice before

Steve Coates 31st August 2018 14:02

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A lot of Western Desert photos of abandoned Luftwaffe aircraft were subject to multiple printings and distribution.

Chris Goss 1st September 2018 09:43

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Agree that 80 years ago some photos were mass produced but for a seller who was not there at the time to have multiple original copies is a bit suspect

edwest2 4th September 2018 21:09

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I'm running across some manipulated photos. Check the faces of these two "men."


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Flak-auf-Eis...8AAOSwxaNbjCHM


Possible plastic model combined with second image. Notice canopy area and lighting inconsistency.
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Luftwaf...gAAOSwsClbiTsN


Another possible model kit. Note the blurring and face pasted into the cockpit.
https://www.ebay.de/itm/C801-Foto-We...EAAOSwPJxbiAuX

Chris Goss 7th September 2018 16:04

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...and a second recorded letter with 2 eBay purchases from Germany has failed to arrive. Strange that both contained photos of RK winners. Sellers most apologetic but what is going on

PMoz99 8th September 2018 01:37

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Not sure what you mean by 'recorded' - does that mean signed for? In Australia that's referred to as 'registered'.
Maybe try getting them sent in a box as a parcel with tracking? Cost?? I guess the determining factor here would be what percentage of mail is going astray - if you get lots then I guess getting them sent as parcels would be prohibitive.
Maybe someone in the system knows who you are and is targetting you. Get them sent somewhere else?
Peter

Chris Goss 9th September 2018 10:13

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We have recorded delivery & registered post. Both are signed for. One costs more than the other & guarantees delivery with more compensation. Apparently speaking to both sellers this is an increasing problem

Chris Goss 9th October 2018 08:23

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Same seller is selling another copy of the same photo. So he had at least 3 copies???? Still will not accept PayPal. Suspect or what?

PMoz99 9th October 2018 08:59

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Hello Chris.
Not a good scenario to get caught up in. I'd certainly be suspicious.
But I thought all eBay sellers are REQUIRED to offer Paypal? I doubt I would ever buy from an eBayer by direct deposit. Too high a risk with no recourse.
If I may ask, who is the seller? Positive feedback percentage?
Peter

Chris Goss 9th October 2018 11:20

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I would rather not name and shame for obvious legal reasons! I have never bought from him due to no PayPal. Others on 12 OCH have noticed who this person is.

Chris Goss 20th November 2018 19:45

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I will say another copy of the same photo is for sale by the same seller. Lucky man to have always many original copies of the same photo..........

Chris Goss 29th December 2018 11:34

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.....and another 2 copies have recently come up for sale. Still will not accept PayPal as well so perhaps that is why they have not sold...or am I too cynical?

Bruce Dennis 29th December 2018 11:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Goss (Post 262910)
.....and another 2 copies have recently come up for sale. Still will not accept PayPal as well so perhaps that is why they have not sold...or am I too cynical?


I see it the same way. PayPal would make the seller behave.


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